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Hey Wen i Try To Copy Some Gfx Its Says ''This File Has A non-standard Resource  Layout....it has probably been Compressed With an EXE COMPRESSOR'' HELP! 

It means it has been compressed. You can't get to it without a decompressor and it is extremely difficult to do that.

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Addison posted: (2nd Mar 2010 05:14 am)

It means it has been compressed. You can't get to it without a decompressor and it is extremely difficult to do that.

Sure you can. Find out what it's been compressed with by opening it in notepad or another text editor. Google a decompressor for it. :)

Wouldn't this mean that this person is trying to grab someone else's GFX images? ( Sorry if this is off topic )

Yes it does. People compress gfx to stop others from stealing their artwork.

Scott posted: (2nd Mar 2010 10:40 am)

Addison posted: (2nd Mar 2010 05:14 am)

It means it has been compressed. You can't get to it without a decompressor and it is extremely difficult to do that.

Sure you can. Find out what it's been compressed with by opening it in notepad or another text editor. Google a decompressor for it. :)

Yeah, Scott, good job. Teach him how to illegally decompress stuff and steal graphics :P

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I'll just say this. COMPRESSING EO GFX FOR "SECURITY" IS FUCKING RETARDED. Not only can it be easily defeated, but it consumes a lot of CPU. I.E. FE, which is basically shit in a box.

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It does slightly increase the load time yes, but the main reason it is done is so people dont claim artwork as theirs. Our artist has copyrights on all his artwork, totally serious, so we have a legal obligation to him to compress our graphics. So I strongly advise against opening the graphics. Theyre protected for a reason.

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Syran posted: (3rd Mar 2010 01:02 am)

It does slightly increase the load time yes, but the main reason it is done is so people dont claim artwork as theirs. Our artist has copyrights on all his artwork, totally serious, so we have a legal obligation to him to compress our graphics. So I strongly advise against opening the graphics.Theyre protected for a reason.

 

 

Not to be mean or anything really but you cant enter any legal obligations being minors ( idk if you or your artist is a minor ) Anything is NULL and void unless its signed ( by both the artist and their guardian if they are minors ) and notarized.

AwesomeEO posted: (3rd Mar 2010 05:12 am)

Syran posted: (3rd Mar 2010 01:02 am)

It does slightly increase the load time yes, but the main reason it is done is so people dont claim artwork as theirs. Our artist has copyrights on all his artwork, totally serious, so we have a legal obligation to him to compress our graphics. So I strongly advise against opening thegraphics.Theyre protected for a reason.

 

 

Not to be mean or anything really but you cant enter any legal obligations being minors ( idk if you or your artist is a minor ) Anything is NULL and void unless its signed ( by both the artist and their guardian if they are minors ) and notarized.

Besides the fact, you're distributing Arvid's work as well. I'm pretty sure this wouldn't make it to civil court. ;)

AwesomeEO posted: (3rd Mar 2010 05:12 am)

Syran posted: (3rd Mar 2010 01:02 am)

It does slightly increase the load time yes, but the main reason it is done is so people dont claim artwork as theirs. Our artist has copyrights on all his artwork, totally serious, so we have a legal obligation to him to compress our graphics. So I strongly advise against opening thegraphics.Theyre protected for a reason.

 

 

Not to be mean or anything really but you cant enter any legal obligations being minors ( idk if you or your artist is a minor ) Anything is NULL and void unless its signed ( by both the artist and their guardian if they are minors ) and notarized.

Im sorry, my friend. Im 18 and enlisted in the United States Navy, and my artist is 28 years old and he does in fact have an open copyright standing and notarized annually.

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I think the point Scott was trying to make is that the copyright holders of the of their "added" content to the original Endless Online game client would look kind of silly trying to sue someone for illegally using/distributing said content considering the fact that their copyright work is packaged with work in which they do not hold the copyright for and redistributed illegally. Or in simpler terms it is basically a thief complaining about being robbed. Unless I am wrong here and someone has completely coded their own Endless Online compatible game client packaged with their own unique artwork and music/sound effects, no one here should be crying. This is really quite ridiculous considering every server here is basically non-profit unless you are running a web site with ads making you a mere $5 a month. The Endless Online program is 7 years old, the graphics are dated, and the main game is home to a peak of 500 players in a given day. If the artists, code-hackers, and midi sequencers on this site would actually work together and start distributing sprite sheets, sound, etc. for everyone to benefit from, the private server community might actually take off, and it might also provide enough graphics from the community as a whole to completely discard all of the original copyright work... and that is a very good thing all its own. 

Apollo posted: (3rd Mar 2010 07:32 pm)

I think the point Scott was trying to make is that the copyright holders of the of their "added" content to the original Endless Online game client would look kind of silly trying to sue someone for illegally using/distributing said content considering the fact that their copyright work ispackaged with work in which they do not hold the copyright for and redistributed illegally. Or in simpler terms it is basically a thief complaining about being robbed. Unless I am wrong here and someone has completely coded their own Endless Online compatible game client packaged with their ownunique artwork and music/sound effects, no one here should be crying. This is really quite ridiculous considering every server here is basically non-profit unless you are running a web site with ads making you a mere $5 a month. The Endless Online program is 7 years old, the graphics are dated, andthe main game is home to a peak of 500 players in a given day. If the artists, code-hackers, and midi sequencers on this site would actually work together and start distributing sprite sheets, sound, etc. for everyone to benefit from, the private server community might actually take off, and itmight also provide enough graphics from the community as a whole to completely discard all of the original copyright work... and that is a very good thing all its own. 

I agree, and the artist working with us is doing exactly that. He is close to replacing every 'map' tile in the client. And after that He'll move onto doing the same for everything else. Although, he doesn't wish to share his work with anybody else, and in the mean time, we still hold the obligation to protect his work.

Noted: yes it would be nice for everyone who actually makes great progression to work together, but it has been discussed many times before. Almost all the advanced servers hold coding which none of them want to share, including your own.

Nobody is crying here, I think Syran merely mistook this guy for trying to open our client gfx, as it has been compressed with methods different to that of FE's and others. 

Back on topic:

The main point of this topic has already been answered: most compressed gfx can be decompressed by opening it into a notepad, and searching the appropriate program to do so. This is Illegal, and in my opinion shouldn't be discussed any further.

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Klutz posted: (3rd Mar 2010 07:43 pm)

Apollo posted: (3rd Mar 2010 07:32 pm)

I think the point Scott was trying to make is that the copyright holders of the of their "added" content to the original Endless Online game client would look kind of silly trying to sue someone for illegally using/distributing said content considering the fact that their copyrightworkispackagedwith work in which they do not hold the copyright for and redistributed illegally. Or in simpler terms it is basically a thief complaining about being robbed. Unless I am wrong here and someone has completely coded their own Endless Online compatible game client packaged withtheirownunique artworkand music/sound effects, no one here should be crying. This is really quite ridiculous considering every server here is basically non-profit unless you are running a web site with ads making you a mere $5 a month. The Endless Online program is 7 years old, the graphics aredated,andthe main game ishome to a peak of 500 players in a given day. If the artists, code-hackers, and midi sequencers on this site would actually work together and start distributing sprite sheets, sound, etc. for everyone to benefit from, the private server community might actually take off,anditmight also provideenough graphics from the community as a whole to completely discard all of the original copyright work... and that is a very good thing all its own. 

I agree, and the artist working with us is doing exactly that. He is close to replacing every 'map' tile in the client. And after that He'll move onto doing the same for everything else. Although, he doesn't wish to share his work with anybody else, and in the mean time, we stillholdtheobligation to protect his work.

Noted: yes it would be nice for everyone who actually makes great progression to work together, but it has been discussed many times before. Almost all the advanced servers hold coding which none of them want to share, including your own.

Nobody is crying here, I think Syran merely mistook this guy for trying to open our client gfx, as it has been compressed with methods different to that of FE's and others. 

Back on topic:

The main point of this topic has already been answered: most compressed gfx can be decompressed by opening it into a notepad, and searching the appropriate program to do so. This is Illegal, and in my opinion shouldn't be discussed any further.

I'm fairly certain it's completely legal to decompress files. My "official staff" opinion is that it can be discussed.

Edit: To make it easier, use this: http://www.woodmann.com/collaborative/tools/index.php/DiE_%28Detect_it_Easy%29 It will determine what packer was used and this will help you reconstruct the file: http://www.ollydbg.de/

Question:

Since when has anyone actually "sued" someone over using gfx from their server, and what court would really be dumb enough to actually hear this? I mean honestly..we're all using stolen gfx, pubs, and clients from Endless.

My Actions:

And, even though the above is true, I would myself protect anything I made through compression, or any other methods available to me. But if someone managed to steal it, then so be it. My artwork is all over, as are my maps. It isn't truly a big deal. And, I personally consider my art being found everywhere flattering, since most people who have it, have also given me administrative ranks on their server.

My opinion, personally:

Why are we hording the things we've made to make this game better? Wasn't the reason for making your private server to show people that they can have fun? If so, then why are we hording our work? Why are we arguing among ourselves? I know that the mass of servers can't work together cohesively, but I know that most of us can, and have at one time or another. Syran and Klutz have been nearly everywhere I have, and, even with arguments between us here and there, we've worked well together. I stopped compressing files at all in my old server, and released them all on my former eoserv account, because I feel its only right to better all of Eoserv and Seose. Don't you all agree?