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Is it garbage or should i continue? Feedback and suggestions would be greatly appreciated http://prntscr.com/8hlp16

thats awesome. It worths alot :p

try red or black instead of green? or Blue instead of green 

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Is this any better? :P http://prntscr.com/8hnofm

If that is your first time, and actually your own work, I'd say you did a great job (for a first attempt). You definitely need to work on it, but the basic concept is there. Just need to brush up on your techniques, and make things blend together a little bit better, so it doesn't look so out of place at certain areas.

Good job though. :)

Edit- I think the first version looks much better. The colours chose for the second do not work well together. The cape looks fairly awkward also with the second attempt.

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Yeah it's my own work, i used an old guide Roefl made for the first frame and ive been working off what i made for the other frames. My biggest worry at the moment is pixels blinking when moving and how the hell i'm going to do the cape when sat down. If anyone can get me a screenshot of their toon seated with armour that has a cape that'd be awesome!

Also should making armour take a long time? am i missing obvious shortcuts or is it just a long tedious process?

Thanks for the feedback, i think i'm gonna stick with the red though, i'm liking how it's looking and i feel there are more items that would make sense for crafting ingredients, like dragon wings/mummy bandages etc http://prntscr.com/8hx63h

Oh lord. Using Roefl's tutorial? His tutorial is a pretty good reference. I'd search the artist section of the forum and try to find Stava's pixel guide. He has a few laying around. Definitely should find that.

Anyhow, the armor isn't that bad at all. The only thing that I wanna say is it that it looks like you just kind of copied the style of shading. You should explore your own style and build from that. A lot of artists on the forums have their own style. Some of them could be improved, and others are pretty damn good. Practice makes perfect.
You should try and expand on your own stuff. It's alright to use another artist's concept on something to refer to, but try making your own line-art and shading. It's a lot easier to tell you what exactly you're doing wrong and what stuff you're doing right.

Don't feel bad though, I did the same thing when I started out way long ago.

Just keep working at it, man! :)

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Your isometric could use a bit of work.

Read my signature, friend.

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Cirras posted: (19th Sep 2015, 01:05 am)

Your isometric could use a bit of work.

Read my signature, friend.

How so? Also it was you that got me into pixel art! ^^ it was on pixel source that i found the guide! xD I love your style man, any tips you can throw my way i'd really value :)

Fuzzy posted: (19th Sep 2015, 12:02 am)

Yeah it's my own work, i used an old guide Roefl made for the first frame and ive been working off what i made for the other frames. My biggest worry at the moment is pixels blinking when moving and how the hell i'm going to do the cape when sat down. If anyone can get me a screenshot of their toon seated with armour that has a cape that'd be awesome!

Also should making armour take a long time? am i missing obvious shortcuts or is it just a long tedious process?

Thanks for the feedback, i think i'm gonna stick with the red though, i'm liking how it's looking and i feel there are more items that would make sense for crafting ingredients, like dragon wings/mummy bandages etc http://prntscr.com/8hx63h

Hey no worries, it's only an opinion. I didn't mean the second colour scheme + overall appearance looked bad by the way, I just think you have to make the colours fit together better, and make it look more realistic at parts, with proper shading and colour tones. You've done very well for a first attempt!

Armors are definitely the hardest/ biggest time consumer, (aside from npc's). It honestly partly depends on your skill level, and ease with certain techniques that determines how long it will take. I remember when I first started, armors took VERY long, and as I got (only slightly better) lol, it became much faster and easier to work with. It's still a slow process irregardless though, especially when a ton of detail is put into something!

Keep up the effort!

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Fuzzy posted: (19th Sep 2015, 02:10 am)

Cirras posted: (19th Sep 2015, 01:05 am)

Your isometric could use a bit of work.

Read my signature, friend.

How so? Also it was you that got me into pixel art! ^^ it was on pixel source that i found the guide! xD I love your style man, any tips you can throw my way i'd really value :)

Hey, that's awesome! Glad I was able to get you interested in this kind of art.

I've circled the problem areas I'm seeing. Try to consider the sprite in 3 dimensions, even though it's 2 dimensional. It lives in isometric space, and you have this diagonal angle concept down, but it's a little bit more than that.

This is the isometric section from Pixelsource - I think the guidelines might be helpful for you.

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Cirras posted: (19th Sep 2015, 04:33 am)

Fuzzy posted: (19th Sep 2015, 02:10 am)

Cirras posted: (19th Sep 2015, 01:05 am)

Your isometric could use a bit of work.

Read my signature, friend.

How so? Also it was you that got me into pixel art! ^^ it was on pixel source that i found the guide! xD I love your style man, any tips you can throw my way i'd really value :)

Hey, that's awesome! Glad I was able to get you interested in this kind of art.

I've circled the problem areas I'm seeing. Try to consider the sprite in 3 dimensions, even though it's 2 dimensional. It lives in isometric space, and you have this diagonal angle concept down, but it's a little bit more than that.

This is the isometric section from Pixelsource - I think the guidelines might be helpful for you.

ah thank you :P i'll try to tweak it. Also i really struggled with this leg http://prntscr.com/8i0tjn do you have an suggestions? :)

Looks great for a first pixel. I'm too embararassed to even mention my first/last attempt xD

Hi there!

Very nice work you got here, but as pointed out above there are some slight mistakes in regards to isometric viewpoints and your shading is off too.

I made my own version, of your update to show you how you can/could have structured it. I hope you don't mind! Note: It's rushed, so it's not as clean or great as I'd want it to be.

Now, your only real problem (that I could pick out) was your color choice. It's not saturated enough.
My saturation ranges around the center of this scale:

Whereas yours, ranges more towards the right:


There's nothing wrong with this! It just tends to look better and the shading is easier to do when your color choice is spread across your saturation scale better.
Your shading on the metal is perfect, however. You have the right idea - metal gets shiny when light hits it. That's what you've done:

This is excellent, just your shine is placed in the wrong part of the shoulderpiece.

Now, your shape is also off. Take a look at the figure of both my armor and yours, and notice the difference:

Don't worry about it. It's not necessary to keep to the shape, but it does make your armor/outfit look more appealing. EOs sprite is difficult to use as a template because it's incorrect in terms of isometric shape. That's why I edited mine, to make it easier to stick to an iso shape. I recommend you do the same.


Now, the shape is easier to understand. You get a clearer view of what the sprite actually looks like, and realize it's not actually fat. Here's a little guide to show you where's where:

That right arm is difficult to see on EOs sprite, that's why making fixes to it is always helpful.

A very important thing to remember when making metal, is that metal does not contort. This means you will have to create a way for the sprite to be able to bend over and move, which is why different plates are necessary (as you can see I put in the arms, legs and chest).

Very nice attempt overall, especially since it's your first time! I'm very impressed. A lot better than I was when I first started. Keep up the good work!

Edit:
Here's a sitting view of an armor I made for BU a little bit ago. You said you wanted one for a cape?

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Nurd posted: (20th Sep 2015, 03:52 pm)

Hi there!

Very nice work you got here, but as pointed out above there are some slight mistakes in regards to isometric viewpoints and your shading is off too.

I made my own version, of your update to show you how you can/could have structured it. I hope you don't mind! Note: It's rushed, so it's not as clean or great as I'd want it to be.

Now, your only real problem (that I could pick out) was your color choice. It's not saturated enough.
My saturation ranges around the center of this scale:

Whereas yours, ranges more towards the right:


There's nothing wrong with this! It just tends to look better and the shading is easier to do when your color choice is spread across your saturation scale better.
Your shading on the metal is perfect, however. You have the right idea - metal gets shiny when light hits it. That's what you've done:

This is excellent, just your shine is placed in the wrong part of the shoulderpiece.

Now, your shape is also off. Take a look at the figure of both my armor and yours, and notice the difference:

Don't worry about it. It's not necessary to keep to the shape, but it does make your armor/outfit look more appealing. EOs sprite is difficult to use as a template because it's incorrect in terms of isometric shape. That's why I edited mine, to make it easier to stick to an iso shape. I recommend you do the same.


Now, the shape is easier to understand. You get a clearer view of what the sprite actually looks like, and realize it's not actually fat. Here's a little guide to show you where's where:

That right arm is difficult to see on EOs sprite, that's why making fixes to it is always helpful.

A very important thing to remember when making metal, is that metal does not contort. This means you will have to create a way for the sprite to be able to bend over and move, which is why different plates are necessary (as you can see I put in the arms, legs and chest).

Very nice attempt overall, especially since it's your first time! I'm very impressed. A lot better than I was when I first started. Keep up the good work!

Edit:
Here's a sitting view of an armor I made for BU a little bit ago. You said you wanted one for a cape?

Holy shit wow! Thank you so much this is hugely helpful! :D

Edit: Would it be possible to get a copy of your templates?

Hollows posted: (19th Sep 2015, 09:50 am)

Looks great for a first pixel. I'm too embararassed to even mention my first/last attempt xD

I'm with him^. My first was a complete and utter disaster. Yours on the other hand is great! Good job, keep at it.

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