Forum :: Lounge :: time to expose the ddosers ROUND 2

Steelo posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:33 am)

Joshcool posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:26 am)

Steelo posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:19 am)

Hi, I'm Steelo. You may know me as:

"Cubanlink, aka Tyrant, aka Tyler he uses bot net and vdos.net his attacks will range from 600k pps to 1.6m pps"

Though I'm not entirely sure what vdos.net is.

Well, Bone, I almost felt some pity for the alter-ego you assumed to post on these forums...that is, until I remembered that you completely deserve what you're facing. I won't get into all of the facts here because it's pointless. People have the freedom to believe whatever they may about me. You've taken quite a bit of heat so far, all well deserved of course, and I don't mind if some of it is focused onto myself.

I had good reasons for doing what I did. Also, to clear up any misunderstandings Bone may have created, I've never attacked EE or FE. I have no problems with either server.

I am quite intrigued however, as to find out your reason for having a problem with BU in the first place. What was the determining factor that made you decide to DDOS the game for good or allow it to be online providing you're granted adminship? I noticed you said you don't want to get into the details, but surely you'd be willing to disclose as I'm possibly not the only poster on topic curious to know why.

I'll say this much. Adminship wasn't an issue since Bone had already promoted me. Everything was running smoothly. In fact, I even talked to Bone on several occasions, trying to help him with whatever problems he was facing & with acquiring superior protection from DDoS attacks. Contrary to popular knowledge, BU being offline right now has nothing to do with any of my own self-gains.

After I was promoted, though I did my best to act responsibly with my powers (most will attest to that), I soon discovered that Bone had been doing quite a bit of sneaking around. I gave him my trust & found out that he hid things from me, lied to me, stalled & delayed the demotion of Eviloverlord (which he promised me he'd do) just because he didn't want to do it in the first place. Is being straight forward and honest so much to ask?

Anyway, Bone transformed into the alter-ego he usually assumes when trying to appear tough because he was around his staff and didn't want to show them that he was really in a vulnerable state. I got sick of his antics & disrespect.

Though this might not seem like enough reason to take down someone's server to many of you, you have to understand that a lot went on in the past & behind the scenes. This wasn't just a 1 night thing. If I tried to get into all of those details, I'd have to write an essay. I hope that answers your question though, Josh.

There's also no excuse for how you acted to players as a staff member. You're not only representing Bone and the staff team, but BU was a whole. Silencing players from having an opinion about a topic and muting,kicking, banning, jailing etc etc. for those type of things clearly show how good you were. 

Steelo posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:33 am)

Joshcool posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:26 am)

Steelo posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:19 am)

Hi, I'm Steelo. You may know me as:

"Cubanlink, aka Tyrant, aka Tyler he uses bot net and vdos.net his attacks will range from 600k pps to 1.6m pps"

Though I'm not entirely sure what vdos.net is.

Well, Bone, I almost felt some pity for the alter-ego you assumed to post on these forums...that is, until I remembered that you completely deserve what you're facing. I won't get into all of the facts here because it's pointless. People have the freedom to believe whatever they may about me. You've taken quite a bit of heat so far, all well deserved of course, and I don't mind if some of it is focused onto myself.

I had good reasons for doing what I did. Also, to clear up any misunderstandings Bone may have created, I've never attacked EE or FE. I have no problems with either server.

I am quite intrigued however, as to find out your reason for having a problem with BU in the first place. What was the determining factor that made you decide to DDOS the game for good or allow it to be online providing you're granted adminship? I noticed you said you don't want to get into the details, but surely you'd be willing to disclose as I'm possibly not the only poster on topic curious to know why.

I'll say this much. Adminship wasn't an issue since Bone had already promoted me. Everything was running smoothly. In fact, I even talked to Bone on several occasions, trying to help him with whatever problems he was facing & with acquiring superior protection from DDoS attacks. Contrary to popular knowledge, BU being offline right now has nothing to do with any of my own self-gains.

After I was promoted, though I did my best to act responsibly with my powers (most will attest to that), I soon discovered that Bone had been doing quite a bit of sneaking around. I gave him my trust & found out that he hid things from me, lied to me, stalled & delayed the demotion of Eviloverlord (which he promised me he'd do) just because he didn't want to do it in the first place. Is being straight forward and honest so much to ask?

Anyway, Bone transformed into the alter-ego he usually assumes when trying to appear tough because he was around his staff and didn't want to show them that he was really in a vulnerable state. I got sick of his antics & disrespect.

Though this might not seem like enough reason to take down someone's server to many of you, you have to understand that a lot went on in the past & behind the scenes. This wasn't just a 1 night thing. If I tried to get into all of those details, I'd have to write an essay. I hope that answers your question though, Josh.

I mean to me, I'm completely clueless regarding the situation. All I heard was what everyone was shouting about in the bank/on global. I didn't really pay too much attention to it, I guess I never really did with the drama on there. If there was a way, it'd be nice to think you and Bone could come to a mutual decision, a truce if you like.

RyanDaScouser posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:27 am)

I'm not going to lie i used to be a right cunt, used 2 be a selfish fuck like these but you obviously aren't seeing the big picture, bone get legal advice and thats your only option right now unless you want larry demoted, eventually all these immature odious little toads will crawl back under there rocks and be gone and let your game back to piece, you're all flaming bone saying "shit server" why do you think he doesn't attack FE and EE because they aren't worth attacking BU gets 50 players, look at the online list 

public

Name	Host	Port	Players	Status
Fallen Evolution	game.fallen-evolution.com	8078	38	Online
Endless Edge	game.endless-edge.com	8078	36	Online

you think they get them players normally? they're getting them because BU is down because the BU players are going to the shit servers, they attack BU because it's top of the SLN and it's worth attacking, they get something out of it, i used to attack BU but i've grown up it's immature, selfish and pathetic and the sooner they all learn the better for themselves not for bone although he'd get his game back but when you're in my shoes watching somebody else do what i used to do i realise how pathetic it really is and questioned myself why did i ever do it? it's because i was pathetic, selfish and immature. 

He's most probably not using a botnet, if he is it's going to be something from hackforums what you pay for because (no offense) he's not smart enough to code his own botnet and get the zombies for it etc, he's most probably using VDOSS.NET and maybe another booter he's paid for to raise the attacks.

That's the most honest post here. o.o
Everything you say about those people is completely accurate.
It's honestly surprising to see someone who's done that before, own up to it. Especially considering this is Eoserv..

Good for you. I sincerely mean that to.

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important posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:38 am)

Steelo posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:33 am)

Joshcool posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:26 am)

Steelo posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:19 am)

Hi, I'm Steelo. You may know me as:

"Cubanlink, aka Tyrant, aka Tyler he uses bot net and vdos.net his attacks will range from 600k pps to 1.6m pps"

Though I'm not entirely sure what vdos.net is.

Well, Bone, I almost felt some pity for the alter-ego you assumed to post on these forums...that is, until I remembered that you completely deserve what you're facing. I won't get into all of the facts here because it's pointless. People have the freedom to believe whatever they may about me. You've taken quite a bit of heat so far, all well deserved of course, and I don't mind if some of it is focused onto myself.

I had good reasons for doing what I did. Also, to clear up any misunderstandings Bone may have created, I've never attacked EE or FE. I have no problems with either server.

I am quite intrigued however, as to find out your reason for having a problem with BU in the first place. What was the determining factor that made you decide to DDOS the game for good or allow it to be online providing you're granted adminship? I noticed you said you don't want to get into the details, but surely you'd be willing to disclose as I'm possibly not the only poster on topic curious to know why.

I'll say this much. Adminship wasn't an issue since Bone had already promoted me. Everything was running smoothly. In fact, I even talked to Bone on several occasions, trying to help him with whatever problems he was facing & with acquiring superior protection from DDoS attacks. Contrary to popular knowledge, BU being offline right now has nothing to do with any of my own self-gains.

After I was promoted, though I did my best to act responsibly with my powers (most will attest to that), I soon discovered that Bone had been doing quite a bit of sneaking around. I gave him my trust & found out that he hid things from me, lied to me, stalled & delayed the demotion of Eviloverlord (which he promised me he'd do) just because he didn't want to do it in the first place. Is being straight forward and honest so much to ask?

Anyway, Bone transformed into the alter-ego he usually assumes when trying to appear tough because he was around his staff and didn't want to show them that he was really in a vulnerable state. I got sick of his antics & disrespect.

Though this might not seem like enough reason to take down someone's server to many of you, you have to understand that a lot went on in the past & behind the scenes. This wasn't just a 1 night thing. If I tried to get into all of those details, I'd have to write an essay. I hope that answers your question though, Josh.

There's also no excuse for how you acted to players as a staff member. You're not only representing Bone and the staff team, but BU was a whole. Silencing players from having an opinion about a topic and muting,kicking, banning, jailing etc etc. for those type of things clearly show how good you were. 

If there were a way for you to see the names of every player who I've ever muted/jailed/banned, you'll notice that every single one of them is known for being a troll & generally rebelling against administration.
There's nothing wrong with that, and it doesn't give any admin the right to automatically punish them without just cause, but everyone who I've ever had to use a command on deserved it.

Let's take you, for example. You said you don't play BU right? That you logged on for about 1-2hours & got banned? You don't even play the game, yet you logged in & immediately started complaining about the game, telling the admins & Bone how to run the game, and calling several people (including me) a "neckbeard". That doesn't seem like voicing an opinion to me, but more like trolling & being hostile and offensive.
You also had a couple of buddies with you to help you in your endeavors, who threatened to DDoS the server.

If that isn't enough reason to give out a punishment I don't know what is.

You know, those topics Hotdog posted about EODev actually got me thinking that there might be hope for this place after all.

LOLNOPE, THIS IS EOSERV.

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Steelo posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:44 am)

important posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:38 am)

Steelo posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:33 am)

Joshcool posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:26 am)

Steelo posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:19 am)

Hi, I'm Steelo. You may know me as:

"Cubanlink, aka Tyrant, aka Tyler he uses bot net and vdos.net his attacks will range from 600k pps to 1.6m pps"

Though I'm not entirely sure what vdos.net is.

Well, Bone, I almost felt some pity for the alter-ego you assumed to post on these forums...that is, until I remembered that you completely deserve what you're facing. I won't get into all of the facts here because it's pointless. People have the freedom to believe whatever they may about me. You've taken quite a bit of heat so far, all well deserved of course, and I don't mind if some of it is focused onto myself.

I had good reasons for doing what I did. Also, to clear up any misunderstandings Bone may have created, I've never attacked EE or FE. I have no problems with either server.

I am quite intrigued however, as to find out your reason for having a problem with BU in the first place. What was the determining factor that made you decide to DDOS the game for good or allow it to be online providing you're granted adminship? I noticed you said you don't want to get into the details, but surely you'd be willing to disclose as I'm possibly not the only poster on topic curious to know why.

I'll say this much. Adminship wasn't an issue since Bone had already promoted me. Everything was running smoothly. In fact, I even talked to Bone on several occasions, trying to help him with whatever problems he was facing & with acquiring superior protection from DDoS attacks. Contrary to popular knowledge, BU being offline right now has nothing to do with any of my own self-gains.

After I was promoted, though I did my best to act responsibly with my powers (most will attest to that), I soon discovered that Bone had been doing quite a bit of sneaking around. I gave him my trust & found out that he hid things from me, lied to me, stalled & delayed the demotion of Eviloverlord (which he promised me he'd do) just because he didn't want to do it in the first place. Is being straight forward and honest so much to ask?

Anyway, Bone transformed into the alter-ego he usually assumes when trying to appear tough because he was around his staff and didn't want to show them that he was really in a vulnerable state. I got sick of his antics & disrespect.

Though this might not seem like enough reason to take down someone's server to many of you, you have to understand that a lot went on in the past & behind the scenes. This wasn't just a 1 night thing. If I tried to get into all of those details, I'd have to write an essay. I hope that answers your question though, Josh.

There's also no excuse for how you acted to players as a staff member. You're not only representing Bone and the staff team, but BU was a whole. Silencing players from having an opinion about a topic and muting,kicking, banning, jailing etc etc. for those type of things clearly show how good you were. 

If there were a way for you to see the names of every player who I've ever muted/jailed/banned, you'll notice that every single one of them is known for being a troll & generally rebelling against administration.
There's nothing wrong with that, and it doesn't give any admin the right to automatically punish them without just cause, but everyone who I've ever had to use a command on deserved it.

Let's take you, for example. You said you don't play BU right? That you logged on for about 1-2hours & got banned? You don't even play the game, yet you logged in & immediately started complaining about the game, telling the admins & Bone how to run the game, and calling several people (including me) a "neckbeard". That doesn't seem like voicing an opinion to me, but more like trolling & being hostile and offensive.
You also had a couple of buddies with you to help you in your endeavors, who threatened to DDoS the server.

If that isn't enough reason to give out a punishment I don't know what is.

I went on and called your DDoSing friends "neckbeards". Doesn't know if that warrants a ban. Moreover, I didn't have anyone follow me and I have no connections whatsoever to anyone who DDoSes that went on your server after that. The time when I went on the server, every time I voiced my opinion, you would just tell me to be quiet and attempt to silence me. Both you and Expensive expect people to worship you or beg for your mercy. It doesn't work that way. If people want to voice their opinions, they will. Also, do you consider telling someone to re-evaluate themselves and telling the staff member to work together is a way of running a server? Lol, no. It's basic.

shayne posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:43 am)

RyanDaScouser posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:27 am)

I'm not going to lie i used to be a right cunt, used 2 be a selfish fuck like these but you obviously aren't seeing the big picture, bone get legal advice and thats your only option right now unless you want larry demoted, eventually all these immature odious little toads will crawl back under there rocks and be gone and let your game back to piece, you're all flaming bone saying "shit server" why do you think he doesn't attack FE and EE because they aren't worth attacking BU gets 50 players, look at the online list 

public

Name	Host	Port	Players	Status
Fallen Evolution	game.fallen-evolution.com	8078	38	Online
Endless Edge	game.endless-edge.com	8078	36	Online

you think they get them players normally? they're getting them because BU is down because the BU players are going to the shit servers, they attack BU because it's top of the SLN and it's worth attacking, they get something out of it, i used to attack BU but i've grown up it's immature, selfish and pathetic and the sooner they all learn the better for themselves not for bone although he'd get his game back but when you're in my shoes watching somebody else do what i used to do i realise how pathetic it really is and questioned myself why did i ever do it? it's because i was pathetic, selfish and immature. 

He's most probably not using a botnet, if he is it's going to be something from hackforums what you pay for because (no offense) he's not smart enough to code his own botnet and get the zombies for it etc, he's most probably using VDOSS.NET and maybe another booter he's paid for to raise the attacks.

That's the most honest post here. o.o
Everything you say about those people is completely accurate.
It's honestly surprising to see someone who's done that before, own up to it. Especially considering this is Eoserv..

Good for you. I sincerely mean that to.

I took bu down for quite a while i got adminship, bone is really a decent guy an doesnt deserve this, after i got adminship i was a bit of a dick but then i just realised how stupid it is and when i got demoted i didnt care, me and kyle are mates after me breakin some of his routers (lol)

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Joshcool posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:40 am)

Steelo posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:33 am)

Joshcool posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:26 am)

Steelo posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:19 am)

Hi, I'm Steelo. You may know me as:

"Cubanlink, aka Tyrant, aka Tyler he uses bot net and vdos.net his attacks will range from 600k pps to 1.6m pps"

Though I'm not entirely sure what vdos.net is.

Well, Bone, I almost felt some pity for the alter-ego you assumed to post on these forums...that is, until I remembered that you completely deserve what you're facing. I won't get into all of the facts here because it's pointless. People have the freedom to believe whatever they may about me. You've taken quite a bit of heat so far, all well deserved of course, and I don't mind if some of it is focused onto myself.

I had good reasons for doing what I did. Also, to clear up any misunderstandings Bone may have created, I've never attacked EE or FE. I have no problems with either server.

I am quite intrigued however, as to find out your reason for having a problem with BU in the first place. What was the determining factor that made you decide to DDOS the game for good or allow it to be online providing you're granted adminship? I noticed you said you don't want to get into the details, but surely you'd be willing to disclose as I'm possibly not the only poster on topic curious to know why.

I'll say this much. Adminship wasn't an issue since Bone had already promoted me. Everything was running smoothly. In fact, I even talked to Bone on several occasions, trying to help him with whatever problems he was facing & with acquiring superior protection from DDoS attacks. Contrary to popular knowledge, BU being offline right now has nothing to do with any of my own self-gains.

After I was promoted, though I did my best to act responsibly with my powers (most will attest to that), I soon discovered that Bone had been doing quite a bit of sneaking around. I gave him my trust & found out that he hid things from me, lied to me, stalled & delayed the demotion of Eviloverlord (which he promised me he'd do) just because he didn't want to do it in the first place. Is being straight forward and honest so much to ask?

Anyway, Bone transformed into the alter-ego he usually assumes when trying to appear tough because he was around his staff and didn't want to show them that he was really in a vulnerable state. I got sick of his antics & disrespect.

Though this might not seem like enough reason to take down someone's server to many of you, you have to understand that a lot went on in the past & behind the scenes. This wasn't just a 1 night thing. If I tried to get into all of those details, I'd have to write an essay. I hope that answers your question though, Josh.

I mean to me, I'm completely clueless regarding the situation. All I heard was what everyone was shouting about in the bank/on global. I didn't really pay too much attention to it, I guess I never really did with the drama on there. If there was a way, it'd be nice to think you and Bone could come to a mutual decision, a truce if you like.

We've tried coming to a mutual decision before, and it worked out fine until Bone decided to sneak around & stab me in the back.
I'm not trying to hate on him, but from my own experience I think that Bone is generally a pretty dishonest dude who will say or do whatever it takes to make himself look good.

I've learned from the mistake of trusting him.
I finally understand now why Ananas stepped down & quit BU.

Steelo posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:44 am)

important posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:38 am)

Steelo posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:33 am)

Joshcool posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:26 am)

Steelo posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:19 am)

Hi, I'm Steelo. You may know me as:

"Cubanlink, aka Tyrant, aka Tyler he uses bot net and vdos.net his attacks will range from 600k pps to 1.6m pps"

Though I'm not entirely sure what vdos.net is.

Well, Bone, I almost felt some pity for the alter-ego you assumed to post on these forums...that is, until I remembered that you completely deserve what you're facing. I won't get into all of the facts here because it's pointless. People have the freedom to believe whatever they may about me. You've taken quite a bit of heat so far, all well deserved of course, and I don't mind if some of it is focused onto myself.

I had good reasons for doing what I did. Also, to clear up any misunderstandings Bone may have created, I've never attacked EE or FE. I have no problems with either server.

I am quite intrigued however, as to find out your reason for having a problem with BU in the first place. What was the determining factor that made you decide to DDOS the game for good or allow it to be online providing you're granted adminship? I noticed you said you don't want to get into the details, but surely you'd be willing to disclose as I'm possibly not the only poster on topic curious to know why.

I'll say this much. Adminship wasn't an issue since Bone had already promoted me. Everything was running smoothly. In fact, I even talked to Bone on several occasions, trying to help him with whatever problems he was facing & with acquiring superior protection from DDoS attacks. Contrary to popular knowledge, BU being offline right now has nothing to do with any of my own self-gains.

After I was promoted, though I did my best to act responsibly with my powers (most will attest to that), I soon discovered that Bone had been doing quite a bit of sneaking around. I gave him my trust & found out that he hid things from me, lied to me, stalled & delayed the demotion of Eviloverlord (which he promised me he'd do) just because he didn't want to do it in the first place. Is being straight forward and honest so much to ask?

Anyway, Bone transformed into the alter-ego he usually assumes when trying to appear tough because he was around his staff and didn't want to show them that he was really in a vulnerable state. I got sick of his antics & disrespect.

Though this might not seem like enough reason to take down someone's server to many of you, you have to understand that a lot went on in the past & behind the scenes. This wasn't just a 1 night thing. If I tried to get into all of those details, I'd have to write an essay. I hope that answers your question though, Josh.

There's also no excuse for how you acted to players as a staff member. You're not only representing Bone and the staff team, but BU was a whole. Silencing players from having an opinion about a topic and muting,kicking, banning, jailing etc etc. for those type of things clearly show how good you were. 

If there were a way for you to see the names of every player who I've ever muted/jailed/banned, you'll notice that every single one of them is known for being a troll & generally rebelling against administration.
There's nothing wrong with that, and it doesn't give any admin the right to automatically punish them without just cause, but everyone who I've ever had to use a command on deserved it.

Let's take you, for example. You said you don't play BU right? That you logged on for about 1-2hours & got banned? You don't even play the game, yet you logged in & immediately started complaining about the game, telling the admins & Bone how to run the game, and calling several people (including me) a "neckbeard". That doesn't seem like voicing an opinion to me, but more like trolling & being hostile and offensive.
You also had a couple of buddies with you to help you in your endeavors, who threatened to DDoS the server.

If that isn't enough reason to give out a punishment I don't know what is.

According to your logic, you deserve to be punished now, since you've been punishing Bone.
When does it stop? It usually doesn't, because people like you are to immature, to see that what you're doing is wrong.
I have confidence one day you, and others alike you, might grow up, and better themselves, and not worsen others.
Unfortunately this often doesn't happen, but clearly, sometimes it does. Hopefully you can grasp that concept.

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Steelo posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:51 am)

Joshcool posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:40 am)

Steelo posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:33 am)

Joshcool posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:26 am)

Steelo posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:19 am)

Hi, I'm Steelo. You may know me as:

"Cubanlink, aka Tyrant, aka Tyler he uses bot net and vdos.net his attacks will range from 600k pps to 1.6m pps"

Though I'm not entirely sure what vdos.net is.

Well, Bone, I almost felt some pity for the alter-ego you assumed to post on these forums...that is, until I remembered that you completely deserve what you're facing. I won't get into all of the facts here because it's pointless. People have the freedom to believe whatever they may about me. You've taken quite a bit of heat so far, all well deserved of course, and I don't mind if some of it is focused onto myself.

I had good reasons for doing what I did. Also, to clear up any misunderstandings Bone may have created, I've never attacked EE or FE. I have no problems with either server.

I am quite intrigued however, as to find out your reason for having a problem with BU in the first place. What was the determining factor that made you decide to DDOS the game for good or allow it to be online providing you're granted adminship? I noticed you said you don't want to get into the details, but surely you'd be willing to disclose as I'm possibly not the only poster on topic curious to know why.

I'll say this much. Adminship wasn't an issue since Bone had already promoted me. Everything was running smoothly. In fact, I even talked to Bone on several occasions, trying to help him with whatever problems he was facing & with acquiring superior protection from DDoS attacks. Contrary to popular knowledge, BU being offline right now has nothing to do with any of my own self-gains.

After I was promoted, though I did my best to act responsibly with my powers (most will attest to that), I soon discovered that Bone had been doing quite a bit of sneaking around. I gave him my trust & found out that he hid things from me, lied to me, stalled & delayed the demotion of Eviloverlord (which he promised me he'd do) just because he didn't want to do it in the first place. Is being straight forward and honest so much to ask?

Anyway, Bone transformed into the alter-ego he usually assumes when trying to appear tough because he was around his staff and didn't want to show them that he was really in a vulnerable state. I got sick of his antics & disrespect.

Though this might not seem like enough reason to take down someone's server to many of you, you have to understand that a lot went on in the past & behind the scenes. This wasn't just a 1 night thing. If I tried to get into all of those details, I'd have to write an essay. I hope that answers your question though, Josh.

I mean to me, I'm completely clueless regarding the situation. All I heard was what everyone was shouting about in the bank/on global. I didn't really pay too much attention to it, I guess I never really did with the drama on there. If there was a way, it'd be nice to think you and Bone could come to a mutual decision, a truce if you like.

We've tried coming to a mutual decision before, and it worked out fine until Bone decided to sneak around & stab me in the back.
I'm not trying to hate on him, but from my own experience I think that Bone is generally a pretty dishonest dude who will say or do whatever it takes to make himself look good.

I've learned from the mistake of trusting him.
I finally understand now why Ananas stepped down & quit BU.

I repeat. You cannot expect honesty from people when you are attacking them for your own selfish gains.

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Shadowsonus posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:52 am)

Steelo I understand where ur Coming from 

As do i, i see what hes saying because bones done it to me too he does what he has to, to keep his game up and his players happy, hes always been like that he does his best and id do the same in his position theyve got him in a corner, its not really fair

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Steelo posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:51 am)

Joshcool posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:40 am)

Steelo posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:33 am)

Joshcool posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:26 am)

Steelo posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:19 am)

Hi, I'm Steelo. You may know me as:

"Cubanlink, aka Tyrant, aka Tyler he uses bot net and vdos.net his attacks will range from 600k pps to 1.6m pps"

Though I'm not entirely sure what vdos.net is.

Well, Bone, I almost felt some pity for the alter-ego you assumed to post on these forums...that is, until I remembered that you completely deserve what you're facing. I won't get into all of the facts here because it's pointless. People have the freedom to believe whatever they may about me. You've taken quite a bit of heat so far, all well deserved of course, and I don't mind if some of it is focused onto myself.

I had good reasons for doing what I did. Also, to clear up any misunderstandings Bone may have created, I've never attacked EE or FE. I have no problems with either server.

I am quite intrigued however, as to find out your reason for having a problem with BU in the first place. What was the determining factor that made you decide to DDOS the game for good or allow it to be online providing you're granted adminship? I noticed you said you don't want to get into the details, but surely you'd be willing to disclose as I'm possibly not the only poster on topic curious to know why.

I'll say this much. Adminship wasn't an issue since Bone had already promoted me. Everything was running smoothly. In fact, I even talked to Bone on several occasions, trying to help him with whatever problems he was facing & with acquiring superior protection from DDoS attacks. Contrary to popular knowledge, BU being offline right now has nothing to do with any of my own self-gains.

After I was promoted, though I did my best to act responsibly with my powers (most will attest to that), I soon discovered that Bone had been doing quite a bit of sneaking around. I gave him my trust & found out that he hid things from me, lied to me, stalled & delayed the demotion of Eviloverlord (which he promised me he'd do) just because he didn't want to do it in the first place. Is being straight forward and honest so much to ask?

Anyway, Bone transformed into the alter-ego he usually assumes when trying to appear tough because he was around his staff and didn't want to show them that he was really in a vulnerable state. I got sick of his antics & disrespect.

Though this might not seem like enough reason to take down someone's server to many of you, you have to understand that a lot went on in the past & behind the scenes. This wasn't just a 1 night thing. If I tried to get into all of those details, I'd have to write an essay. I hope that answers your question though, Josh.

I mean to me, I'm completely clueless regarding the situation. All I heard was what everyone was shouting about in the bank/on global. I didn't really pay too much attention to it, I guess I never really did with the drama on there. If there was a way, it'd be nice to think you and Bone could come to a mutual decision, a truce if you like.

We've tried coming to a mutual decision before, and it worked out fine until Bone decided to sneak around & stab me in the back.
I'm not trying to hate on him, but from my own experience I think that Bone is generally a pretty dishonest dude who will say or do whatever it takes to make himself look good.

I've learned from the mistake of trusting him.
I finally understand now why Ananas stepped down & quit BU.

From being on for only 1-2 hours, I was also informed by most of your admins that they have tried to work together with Expensive and you before and you simply brush them off. Cirras, probably one of the best admins I've seen on BU has also indicated that YOU Cuban, are the inefficient wrench in the machine. You treat other staff members and even players disrespectfully and you expect people to just sit there and allow you to silence them? The fact is, whenever players or admins on BU think of an abusive admin, they will think you, expensive or Evil.

shayne posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:52 am)

Steelo posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:44 am)

important posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:38 am)

Steelo posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:33 am)

Joshcool posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:26 am)

Steelo posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:19 am)

Hi, I'm Steelo. You may know me as:

"Cubanlink, aka Tyrant, aka Tyler he uses bot net and vdos.net his attacks will range from 600k pps to 1.6m pps"

Though I'm not entirely sure what vdos.net is.

Well, Bone, I almost felt some pity for the alter-ego you assumed to post on these forums...that is, until I remembered that you completely deserve what you're facing. I won't get into all of the facts here because it's pointless. People have the freedom to believe whatever they may about me. You've taken quite a bit of heat so far, all well deserved of course, and I don't mind if some of it is focused onto myself.

I had good reasons for doing what I did. Also, to clear up any misunderstandings Bone may have created, I've never attacked EE or FE. I have no problems with either server.

I am quite intrigued however, as to find out your reason for having a problem with BU in the first place. What was the determining factor that made you decide to DDOS the game for good or allow it to be online providing you're granted adminship? I noticed you said you don't want to get into the details, but surely you'd be willing to disclose as I'm possibly not the only poster on topic curious to know why.

I'll say this much. Adminship wasn't an issue since Bone had already promoted me. Everything was running smoothly. In fact, I even talked to Bone on several occasions, trying to help him with whatever problems he was facing & with acquiring superior protection from DDoS attacks. Contrary to popular knowledge, BU being offline right now has nothing to do with any of my own self-gains.

After I was promoted, though I did my best to act responsibly with my powers (most will attest to that), I soon discovered that Bone had been doing quite a bit of sneaking around. I gave him my trust & found out that he hid things from me, lied to me, stalled & delayed the demotion of Eviloverlord (which he promised me he'd do) just because he didn't want to do it in the first place. Is being straight forward and honest so much to ask?

Anyway, Bone transformed into the alter-ego he usually assumes when trying to appear tough because he was around his staff and didn't want to show them that he was really in a vulnerable state. I got sick of his antics & disrespect.

Though this might not seem like enough reason to take down someone's server to many of you, you have to understand that a lot went on in the past & behind the scenes. This wasn't just a 1 night thing. If I tried to get into all of those details, I'd have to write an essay. I hope that answers your question though, Josh.

There's also no excuse for how you acted to players as a staff member. You're not only representing Bone and the staff team, but BU was a whole. Silencing players from having an opinion about a topic and muting,kicking, banning, jailing etc etc. for those type of things clearly show how good you were. 

If there were a way for you to see the names of every player who I've ever muted/jailed/banned, you'll notice that every single one of them is known for being a troll & generally rebelling against administration.
There's nothing wrong with that, and it doesn't give any admin the right to automatically punish them without just cause, but everyone who I've ever had to use a command on deserved it.

Let's take you, for example. You said you don't play BU right? That you logged on for about 1-2hours & got banned? You don't even play the game, yet you logged in & immediately started complaining about the game, telling the admins & Bone how to run the game, and calling several people (including me) a "neckbeard". That doesn't seem like voicing an opinion to me, but more like trolling & being hostile and offensive.
You also had a couple of buddies with you to help you in your endeavors, who threatened to DDoS the server.

If that isn't enough reason to give out a punishment I don't know what is.

According to your logic, you deserve to be punished now, since you've been punishing Bone.
When does it stop? It usually doesn't, because people like you are to immature, to see that what you're doing is wrong.
I have confidence one day you, and others alike you, might grow up, and better themselves, and not worsen others.
Unfortunately this often doesn't happen, but clearly, sometimes it does. Hopefully you can grasp that concept.

Obviously. I'm not ignorant enough to believe that DDoSing is a completely moral thing to do.
Also, for future knowledge, keep in mind that telling someone you don't know that they're immature & to grow up usually doesn't help validate your post.

Anyways, this isn't about how I behaved as an admin. It's about how racism & abuse from an HGM is condoned as long as you're Bone's long time friend & about the
repercussions of dishonesty & backstabbing.

If I have to be seen as a bad guy & resort to unethical tactics to bring down a lying, traitorous jerk then so be it.
There are values which I abide by & support that are bigger than any game or server.
I will make sure justice is carried out.

Steelo posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:51 am)

Joshcool posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:40 am)

Steelo posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:33 am)

Joshcool posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:26 am)

Steelo posted: (13th Jun 2013, 12:19 am)

Hi, I'm Steelo. You may know me as:

"Cubanlink, aka Tyrant, aka Tyler he uses bot net and vdos.net his attacks will range from 600k pps to 1.6m pps"

Though I'm not entirely sure what vdos.net is.

Well, Bone, I almost felt some pity for the alter-ego you assumed to post on these forums...that is, until I remembered that you completely deserve what you're facing. I won't get into all of the facts here because it's pointless. People have the freedom to believe whatever they may about me. You've taken quite a bit of heat so far, all well deserved of course, and I don't mind if some of it is focused onto myself.

I had good reasons for doing what I did. Also, to clear up any misunderstandings Bone may have created, I've never attacked EE or FE. I have no problems with either server.

I am quite intrigued however, as to find out your reason for having a problem with BU in the first place. What was the determining factor that made you decide to DDOS the game for good or allow it to be online providing you're granted adminship? I noticed you said you don't want to get into the details, but surely you'd be willing to disclose as I'm possibly not the only poster on topic curious to know why.

I'll say this much. Adminship wasn't an issue since Bone had already promoted me. Everything was running smoothly. In fact, I even talked to Bone on several occasions, trying to help him with whatever problems he was facing & with acquiring superior protection from DDoS attacks. Contrary to popular knowledge, BU being offline right now has nothing to do with any of my own self-gains.

After I was promoted, though I did my best to act responsibly with my powers (most will attest to that), I soon discovered that Bone had been doing quite a bit of sneaking around. I gave him my trust & found out that he hid things from me, lied to me, stalled & delayed the demotion of Eviloverlord (which he promised me he'd do) just because he didn't want to do it in the first place. Is being straight forward and honest so much to ask?

Anyway, Bone transformed into the alter-ego he usually assumes when trying to appear tough because he was around his staff and didn't want to show them that he was really in a vulnerable state. I got sick of his antics & disrespect.

Though this might not seem like enough reason to take down someone's server to many of you, you have to understand that a lot went on in the past & behind the scenes. This wasn't just a 1 night thing. If I tried to get into all of those details, I'd have to write an essay. I hope that answers your question though, Josh.

I mean to me, I'm completely clueless regarding the situation. All I heard was what everyone was shouting about in the bank/on global. I didn't really pay too much attention to it, I guess I never really did with the drama on there. If there was a way, it'd be nice to think you and Bone could come to a mutual decision, a truce if you like.

We've tried coming to a mutual decision before, and it worked out fine until Bone decided to sneak around & stab me in the back.
I'm not trying to hate on him, but from my own experience I think that Bone is generally a pretty dishonest dude who will say or do whatever it takes to make himself look good.

I've learned from the mistake of trusting him.
I finally understand now why Ananas stepped down & quit BU.

Yeah perhaps too much damage has been done, which isn't anything to do with me, it's between you and Kyle. I will say however, that many people who have donated a lot of money and spent countless hours of their free time dedicated to their characters are being punished inadvertently, which isn't fair. Admins like Cirras, Tracy, myself we've spent a lot of time contributing new gfx and maps toward the game, but we admins are able to accept the situation for what it is, but I don't think it's really fair to punish them (the players) in the process, it all just seems a bit petty to me and could probably be resolved in a mature discussion in which both parties agree to wipe the slate clean.