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If God isn't real, how come the moon is out during the day? Checkmate atheists.

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The moon reflects light from the sun, that's why it "glows" at night. It's basically like a giant glow in the dark rock (Simplest way to explain it).

The moon orbits the earth and the earth orbits the sun. Why do you think we have solar eclipses and partial eclipses?

And day/night is just the way the earth is facing the sun, the moon is always technically "out".

How you think this involves god.... the only answer I could come up with is...

/Checkmate Troll

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If god is real, why does he let so many children in Africa starve to death daily? Why does he let the world continue to kill itself off in wars? Why does he not like equality for all people?

Checkmate, religion.

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Syran posted: (21st Jan 2013, 07:12 pm)

If god is real, why does he let so many children in Africa starve to death daily? Why does he let the world continue to kill itself off in wars? Why does he not like equality for all people?

Checkmate, religion.

Maybe he voted for Obama.

No in all seriousness, some aspects of religion are true while some are questionable.

If you think about it, how was matter/space created? Science doesn't have a reasonable explanation yet. 

But if you believe in religion, what created God? And don't say he created himself because that is a bunch of B.s. and we all know it.

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Misca posted: (21st Jan 2013, 07:14 pm)

Syran posted: (21st Jan 2013, 07:12 pm)

If god is real, why does he let so many children in Africa starve to death daily? Why does he let the world continue to kill itself off in wars? Why does he not like equality for all people?

Checkmate, religion.

Maybe he voted for Obama.

No in all seriousness, some aspects of religion are true while some are questionable.

If you think about it, how was matter/space created? Science doesn't have a reasonable explanation yet. 

But if you believe in religion, what created God? And don't say he created himself because that is a bunch of B.s. and we all know it.

Most religions involving deities believe that their god did not create itself, but rather it has always existed. But that's just so supernatural, that most people can't come to believe something so unnatural.

@Syran I have a guy who has been trying to convert me to Christianity for a while, and of course eventually I had to ask the same question about suffering in the world. In a nutshell, he basically said that if this God were to intervene and take away the suffering of the world, where would we draw the line. Because so many people have different beliefs and morals, there are too many different variations of a "perfect" or "suffer-free" world. Then, I asked if he is God he should know what an actual perfect world would be like, so why doesn't he just do it. He then replied to me saying, it's a matter of free-will. Making us completely perfect would be like making us robots. He doesn't want us to do what he says and to worship him because we have no other option, he wants us to do it on our own.

Syran posted: (21st Jan 2013, 07:12 pm)

If god is real, why does he let so many children in Africa starve to death daily? Why does he let the world continue to kill itself off in wars? Why does he not like equality for all people?

Checkmate, religion.

Go watch Futurama - Season 3 Episode 20 - GodFellas.

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Spar posted: (21st Jan 2013, 08:00 pm)

Misca posted: (21st Jan 2013, 07:14 pm)

Syran posted: (21st Jan 2013, 07:12 pm)

If god is real, why does he let so many children in Africa starve to death daily? Why does he let the world continue to kill itself off in wars? Why does he not like equality for all people?

Checkmate, religion.

Maybe he voted for Obama.

No in all seriousness, some aspects of religion are true while some are questionable.

If you think about it, how was matter/space created? Science doesn't have a reasonable explanation yet. 

But if you believe in religion, what created God? And don't say he created himself because that is a bunch of B.s. and we all know it.

Most religions involving deities believe that their god did not create itself, but rather it has always existed. But that's just so supernatural, that most people can't come to believe something so unnatural.

@Syran I have a guy who has been trying to convert me to Christianity for a while, and of course eventually I had to ask the same question about suffering in the world. In a nutshell, he basically said that if this God were to intervene and take away the suffering of the world, where would we draw the line. Because so many people have different beliefs and morals, there are too many different variations of a "perfect" or "suffer-free" world. Then, I asked if he is God he should know what an actual perfect world would be like, so why doesn't he just do it. He then replied to me saying, it's a matter of free-will. Making us completely perfect would be like making us robots. He doesn't want us to do what he says and to worship him because we have no other option, he wants us to do it on our own.

I never understood the point of people trying to convert others. If God gave you free will then surely you have the free will to say no and be done with it. Religious people get angry at me when i talk about how i don't believe in a deity, so i don't, yet why should it be okay for someone to try and convert me. 

Lord posted: (21st Jan 2013, 10:02 pm)

Spar posted: (21st Jan 2013, 08:00 pm)

Misca posted: (21st Jan 2013, 07:14 pm)

Syran posted: (21st Jan 2013, 07:12 pm)

If god is real, why does he let so many children in Africa starve to death daily? Why does he let the world continue to kill itself off in wars? Why does he not like equality for all people?

Checkmate, religion.

Maybe he voted for Obama.

No in all seriousness, some aspects of religion are true while some are questionable.

If you think about it, how was matter/space created? Science doesn't have a reasonable explanation yet. 

But if you believe in religion, what created God? And don't say he created himself because that is a bunch of B.s. and we all know it.

Most religions involving deities believe that their god did not create itself, but rather it has always existed. But that's just so supernatural, that most people can't come to believe something so unnatural.

@Syran I have a guy who has been trying to convert me to Christianity for a while, and of course eventually I had to ask the same question about suffering in the world. In a nutshell, he basically said that if this God were to intervene and take away the suffering of the world, where would we draw the line. Because so many people have different beliefs and morals, there are too many different variations of a "perfect" or "suffer-free" world. Then, I asked if he is God he should know what an actual perfect world would be like, so why doesn't he just do it. He then replied to me saying, it's a matter of free-will. Making us completely perfect would be like making us robots. He doesn't want us to do what he says and to worship him because we have no other option, he wants us to do it on our own.

I never understood the point of people trying to convert others. If God gave you free will then surely you have the free will to say no and be done with it. Religious people get angry at me when i talk about how i don't believe in a deity, so i don't, yet why should it be okay for someone to try and convert me. 

Lol you do have the free will to say no. The religious people believe if you die unsaved / without Christ, you go to hell, and if you die saved with Jesus, then you go to heaven. They might make you angry, yet their only trying to save you from Hell. o.o

Mello posted: (21st Jan 2013, 10:15 pm)

Lord posted: (21st Jan 2013, 10:02 pm)

Spar posted: (21st Jan 2013, 08:00 pm)

Misca posted: (21st Jan 2013, 07:14 pm)

Syran posted: (21st Jan 2013, 07:12 pm)

If god is real, why does he let so many children in Africa starve to death daily? Why does he let the world continue to kill itself off in wars? Why does he not like equality for all people?

Checkmate, religion.

Maybe he voted for Obama.

No in all seriousness, some aspects of religion are true while some are questionable.

If you think about it, how was matter/space created? Science doesn't have a reasonable explanation yet. 

But if you believe in religion, what created God? And don't say he created himself because that is a bunch of B.s. and we all know it.

Most religions involving deities believe that their god did not create itself, but rather it has always existed. But that's just so supernatural, that most people can't come to believe something so unnatural.

@Syran I have a guy who has been trying to convert me to Christianity for a while, and of course eventually I had to ask the same question about suffering in the world. In a nutshell, he basically said that if this God were to intervene and take away the suffering of the world, where would we draw the line. Because so many people have different beliefs and morals, there are too many different variations of a "perfect" or "suffer-free" world. Then, I asked if he is God he should know what an actual perfect world would be like, so why doesn't he just do it. He then replied to me saying, it's a matter of free-will. Making us completely perfect would be like making us robots. He doesn't want us to do what he says and to worship him because we have no other option, he wants us to do it on our own.

I never understood the point of people trying to convert others. If God gave you free will then surely you have the free will to say no and be done with it. Religious people get angry at me when i talk about how i don't believe in a deity, so i don't, yet why should it be okay for someone to try and convert me. 

Lol you do have the free will to say no. The religious people believe if you die unsaved / without Christ, you go to hell, and if you die saved with Jesus, then you go to heaven. They might make you angry, yet their only trying to save you from Hell. o.o

That's the thing, not everyone believes that. I was raised highly religious and as I got older I eventually cast it off. If there truly is a god, then certain things that happened in my life should not have happened at all. There may be a god, I don't know anymore, I have no reason to believe there is, but I also have no reason to believe there is not. If I find undeniable evidence that a god exists and that he is worth following, then I would change my mind. Until then, I live for myself, not some invisible thing that may or may not exist.

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May he now rest under aegis of mirage -
As the sands slowly turn to Elysian fields

and mello. if theres GOD and if Hes Powerful than ever He wont let devils create hell. and btw hell is not true :D

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Religion vs Science makes my life complete! Checkmate!

Science proved that a lot of events from the bible were accurate, and actually did happen in history, they found human bones, horses, wheels and weapons in the lake where Bible says Moses open the water, and cities such as Sodoma and Gomora were found etc..

Since those things did happen, Bible isn't false, the events from Bible aren't legends, myths, but historical facts.

From that point it all depends on how you understand the Bible, literally or non literally..

yeah :D but God says to believe is to see, its because we are depending on our faith,. but for me to see is to believe :D

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Religion vs Science makes my life complete! Checkmate!

You don't see a lot of things but you choose to believe in them (Because scientists or whoever told you it exists), and yet your reason behind not believing in God is that you can't see it..

I think opinion of many people is highly effected by the opinion of "authorities".

stava i think scientists doesnt believe in god. thats what ive learn when im in highschool. that no scientist believe in GOD. that everything is science :D

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Religion vs Science makes my life complete! Checkmate!

stava posted: (22nd Jan 2013, 12:15 am)

You don't see a lot of things but you choose to believe in them (Because scientists or whoever told you it exists), and yet your reason behind not believing in God is that you can't see it..

I think opinion of many people is highly effected by the opinion of "authorities".

Who knows, maybe this is the matrix =|

Reality is only defined by what we make of it.

Emmax you can believe in both god and science, like I said, what was the real source of everything?

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