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Post #174074 Re: Today
stava posted: (15th Dec 2012, 01:16 pm)

Elaya posted: (15th Dec 2012, 01:37 am)

stava posted: (15th Dec 2012, 12:39 am)

Elaya posted: (14th Dec 2012, 10:40 pm)

Life's a bitch. Crap things happen to people who don't deserve it. I mean, honestly, if there really is some omniscient god, where is he now? Hm? If there really is a god, he's clearly a twat for letting things like this happen.

No offense.

*awaits -1s from religious fanatics*


I don't think dying has to be a bad thing

The religious "fanatics" basically think that when you die you go to heaven which is a far better place than the world we live in..

Pain doesn't have to be bad either, in the psychic way it's connected to caring and love, physical pain keeps us from getting ourselves killed and harming our body..


I'm not completely against religion, if that's what you think. People can believe whatever they want to believe. They have their own minds and their own beliefs, as do I. The original poster asked for our thoughts, and that's just how I feel. I've tried praying in the past (when I was at my lowest) and some higher power didn't come to my rescue. In my opinion, religion is nothing more than a fantasy.

Dying does not have to be a bad thing, no. The process can't exactly be enjoyable though (unless, of course, you die peacefully in your sleep). What is a bad thing, however, is when innocent children who have yet to properly live have their lives stolen from them so soon. It's tragic and it happens everyday. I'm just saying that if there is a god - which there may be, I can't say there isn't for certain - he/she could've saved those children and those teachers, right? This "god", who is supposedly all-seeing and all-knowing, could have allowed those children to fully experience the things that any child should in life. There could be a god, sure. But if there is, he/she must be very sick minded to allow innocent people to suffer.

Maybe he did save them from living in this stupid planet lol

Maybe in the other world they can live and experience things that every child should :P


That's if you believe that there's another place (Heaven). Personally i have no religion and don't believe any of it.

Evolution > God theory
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12 years, 20 weeks ago
Post #174085 Re: Today


From what I've learned on other forums including this one is that arguements about religon doesn't lead to anything especially if your calling someones god a twat. Unless we had people that could have intellectual debates in a kind respectuful manner, but this is EOserv so the chances of that happening are zero to none.

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12 years, 20 weeks ago
Post #174086 Re: Today

It's not something to argue over, IMO everyone has a right to believe what they want and i respect that.

It might just be me but i don't believe much lol (Ghosts,Afterlife,Aliens and Fortune Tellers) are a few things i find nonsense.

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12 years, 20 weeks ago
Post #174107 Re: Today


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12 years, 20 weeks ago
Post #174114 Re: Today

In a way it's stupid to say "Fuck the religion"

It's the reason why things like this happen

If we were all "religious" in the way that we follow what Bible says we would share love and peace, there wouldn't be people who would do shit like this..

If we followed the rules that were pointed out in Bible, doesn't matter if they were written by God or some wise person, world would be a far better place to live in.

If more people believed in heaven and hell they would care about the consequences and not feel like they are allowed to do wtf ever they want like this guy did.


SO HERE CYANIDE HERE'S YOUR -1

12 years, 20 weeks ago
Post #174120 Re: Today
stava posted: (15th Dec 2012, 07:01 pm)

In a way it's stupid to say "Fuck the religion"

It's the reason why things like this happen

If we were all "religious" in the way that we follow what Bible says we would share love and peace, there wouldn't be people who would do shit like this..

If we followed the rules that were pointed out in Bible, doesn't matter if they were written by God or some wise person, world would be a far better place to live in.

If more people believed in heaven and hell they would care about the consequences and not feel like they are allowed to do wtf ever they want like this guy did.


SO HERE CYANIDE HERE'S YOUR -1


This is quite true if more people followed the bible perhaps they would not learn so much about god but rather focus on living a happy and normal life that the bible speaks about and abiding by the laws, and teachings it provides, the bible is not the answer to life, just a way of living life to it's fullest.

But then you get idiots who try to do that and then when something goes wrong they blame god for not helping them/doing anything. We all have our own free-will whether we choose to follow a religion or not is our own choice, but obviously the bible is not telling people to go kill innocent children and that's one thing we should all remember and take into consideration.

There is a lot of life's lessons in the bible, and general aspects of life that encourage good rather then the idealism of the world being a sinful piece of shit and everyone should just die along with the devil.

I think if you want to not believe in god and then blame him for not doing anything is quite bad, the real question is, Why didn't you do anything? Why did you all sit there, choose not to believe in anything "good", and let it happen.

If people had a good understanding of the bible i'm sure they wouldn't be out there killing innocent children like this. The more people that give up hope and rebel, the more evil there will be in this world, whether you like to admit it or not.
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12 years, 20 weeks ago
Post #174123 Re: Today

Well if this is the case look at Talibans, They believed doing that sicken act on the twin towers would send them to "Heaven".

Religion has been a bit part in many wars including WW2.

But personally i don't hate on peoples religion it's there choice
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12 years, 20 weeks ago
Post #174141 Re: Today
stava posted: (15th Dec 2012, 07:01 pm)

In a way it's stupid to say "Fuck the religion"

It's the reason why things like this happen

If we were all "religious" in the way that we follow what Bible says we would share love and peace, there wouldn't be people who would do shit like this..

If we followed the rules that were pointed out in Bible, doesn't matter if they were written by God or some wise person, world would be a far better place to live in.

If more people believed in heaven and hell they would care about the consequences and not feel like they are allowed to do wtf ever they want like this guy did.


SO HERE CYANIDE HERE'S YOUR -1


I disagree. I can't be bothered to type every single reason why the Bible is not at all wonderful, so this is taken from the internet:
"It always amazes me how many times this God orders the killing of innocent people even after the Ten Commandments said “Thou shall not kill”.  For example, God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21).  God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3).  He orders another attack and the killing of “all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses” (Joshua 6).  In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife! Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody!  In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church!  In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered.

    The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 and Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9). 

    This type of criminal behavior should shock any moral person.  Murder, rape, pillage, plunder, slavery, and child abuse can not be justified by saying that some god says it’s OK.  If more people would actually sit down and read the Bible there would be a lot more atheists like myself.

    Jesus also promoted the idea that all men should castrate themselves to go to heaven:  "For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother's womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."  (Matthew 19:12 ASV)  I don't know why anyone would follow the teachings of someone who literally tells all men to cut off their privates.

    The God of the Bible also was a big fan of ritual human sacrifice and animal sacrifice.

    And just in case you are thinking that the evil and immoral laws of the Old Testament are no longer in effect, perhaps you should read where Jesus makes it perfectly clear:  "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid."  (Luke 16:17 NAB)

    I know that most Christians believe that God is a good and loving god, and wants people to do good things.  I believe that most people want to do good things and behave morally.  I also believe that many Christians haven’t really read the Bible, or just read certain passages in church.  This is understandable, as the Bible is hard to read due to its archaic language and obscure references.  Also many priests and preachers don’t like to read certain passages in the Bible because they present a message of hate not love."

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Post #174145 Re: Today
Elaya posted: (15th Dec 2012, 08:14 pm)

stava posted: (15th Dec 2012, 07:01 pm)

In a way it's stupid to say "Fuck the religion"

It's the reason why things like this happen

If we were all "religious" in the way that we follow what Bible says we would share love and peace, there wouldn't be people who would do shit like this..

If we followed the rules that were pointed out in Bible, doesn't matter if they were written by God or some wise person, world would be a far better place to live in.

If more people believed in heaven and hell they would care about the consequences and not feel like they are allowed to do wtf ever they want like this guy did.


SO HERE CYANIDE HERE'S YOUR -1


I disagree. I can't be bothered to type every single reason why the Bible is not at all wonderful, so this is taken from the internet:
"It always amazes me how many times this God orders the killing of innocent people even after the Ten Commandments said “Thou shall not kill”.  For example, God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21).  God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3).  He orders another attack and the killing of “all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses” (Joshua 6).  In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife! Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody!  In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church!  In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered.

    The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 and Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9). 

    This type of criminal behavior should shock any moral person.  Murder, rape, pillage, plunder, slavery, and child abuse can not be justified by saying that some god says it’s OK.  If more people would actually sit down and read the Bible there would be a lot more atheists like myself.

    Jesus also promoted the idea that all men should castrate themselves to go to heaven:  "For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother's womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."  (Matthew 19:12 ASV)  I don't know why anyone would follow the teachings of someone who literally tells all men to cut off their privates.

    The God of the Bible also was a big fan of ritual human sacrifice and animal sacrifice.

    And just in case you are thinking that the evil and immoral laws of the Old Testament are no longer in effect, perhaps you should read where Jesus makes it perfectly clear:  "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid."  (Luke 16:17 NAB)

    I know that most Christians believe that God is a good and loving god, and wants people to do good things.  I believe that most people want to do good things and behave morally.  I also believe that many Christians haven’t really read the Bible, or just read certain passages in church.  This is understandable, as the Bible is hard to read due to its archaic language and obscure references.  Also many priests and preachers don’t like to read certain passages in the Bible because they present a message of hate not love."


Idk I haven't heard any of that.. ever

I haven't read whole bible, but I read some part of bible before and I haven't gotten to any part where god supports any of these

easily people could make it up lol

and at some point god said there will be people who will fake the words of Bible and they are Satan's worshipers and will be punished

This text/website is definitely fake;  you might not want to share it around :P

12 years, 20 weeks ago
Post #174147 Re: Today
Elaya posted: (15th Dec 2012, 08:14 pm)

stava posted: (15th Dec 2012, 07:01 pm)

In a way it's stupid to say "Fuck the religion"

It's the reason why things like this happen

If we were all "religious" in the way that we follow what Bible says we would share love and peace, there wouldn't be people who would do shit like this..

If we followed the rules that were pointed out in Bible, doesn't matter if they were written by God or some wise person, world would be a far better place to live in.

If more people believed in heaven and hell they would care about the consequences and not feel like they are allowed to do wtf ever they want like this guy did.


SO HERE CYANIDE HERE'S YOUR -1


I disagree. I can't be bothered to type every single reason why the Bible is not at all wonderful, so this is taken from the internet:
"It always amazes me how many times this God orders the killing of innocent people even after the Ten Commandments said “Thou shall not kill”.  For example, God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21).  God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3).  He orders another attack and the killing of “all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses” (Joshua 6).  In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife! Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody!  In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church!  In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered.

    The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 and Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9). 

    This type of criminal behavior should shock any moral person.  Murder, rape, pillage, plunder, slavery, and child abuse can not be justified by saying that some god says it’s OK.  If more people would actually sit down and read the Bible there would be a lot more atheists like myself.

    Jesus also promoted the idea that all men should castrate themselves to go to heaven:  "For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother's womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."  (Matthew 19:12 ASV)  I don't know why anyone would follow the teachings of someone who literally tells all men to cut off their privates.

    The God of the Bible also was a big fan of ritual human sacrifice and animal sacrifice.

    And just in case you are thinking that the evil and immoral laws of the Old Testament are no longer in effect, perhaps you should read where Jesus makes it perfectly clear:  "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid."  (Luke 16:17 NAB)

    I know that most Christians believe that God is a good and loving god, and wants people to do good things.  I believe that most people want to do good things and behave morally.  I also believe that many Christians haven’t really read the Bible, or just read certain passages in church.  This is understandable, as the Bible is hard to read due to its archaic language and obscure references.  Also many priests and preachers don’t like to read certain passages in the Bible because they present a message of hate not love."


This is hilarious.
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Post #174149 Re: Today
stava posted: (15th Dec 2012, 08:24 pm)

Elaya posted: (15th Dec 2012, 08:14 pm)

stava posted: (15th Dec 2012, 07:01 pm)

In a way it's stupid to say "Fuck the religion"

It's the reason why things like this happen

If we were all "religious" in the way that we follow what Bible says we would share love and peace, there wouldn't be people who would do shit like this..

If we followed the rules that were pointed out in Bible, doesn't matter if they were written by God or some wise person, world would be a far better place to live in.

If more people believed in heaven and hell they would care about the consequences and not feel like they are allowed to do wtf ever they want like this guy did.


SO HERE CYANIDE HERE'S YOUR -1


I disagree. I can't be bothered to type every single reason why the Bible is not at all wonderful, so this is taken from the internet:
"It always amazes me how many times this God orders the killing of innocent people even after the Ten Commandments said ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚¦ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…“Thou shall not killÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚.  For example, God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21).  God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3).  He orders another attack and the killing of ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚¦ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…“all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and assesÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ (Joshua 6).  In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife! Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody!  In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church!  In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered.

    The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 and Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9). 

    This type of criminal behavior should shock any moral person.  Murder, rape, pillage, plunder, slavery, and child abuse can not be justified by saying that some god says itÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¾Ã‚¢s OK.  If more people would actually sit down and read the Bible there would be a lot more atheists like myself.

    Jesus also promoted the idea that all men should castrate themselves to go to heaven:  "For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother's womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."  (Matthew 19:12 ASV)  I don't know why anyone would follow the teachings of someone who literally tells all men to cut off their privates.

    The God of the Bible also was a big fan of ritual human sacrifice and animal sacrifice.

    And just in case you are thinking that the evil and immoral laws of the Old Testament are no longer in effect, perhaps you should read where Jesus makes it perfectly clear:  "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid."  (Luke 16:17 NAB)

    I know that most Christians believe that God is a good and loving god, and wants people to do good things.  I believe that most people want to do good things and behave morally.  I also believe that many Christians havenÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¾Ã‚¢t really read the Bible, or just read certain passages in church.  This is understandable, as the Bible is hard to read due to its archaic language and obscure references.  Also many priests and preachers donÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¾Ã‚¢t like to read certain passages in the Bible because they present a message of hate not love."


Idk I haven't heard any of that.. ever

I haven't read whole bible, but I read some part of bible before and I haven't gotten to any part where god supports any of these

easily people could make it up lol

and at some point god said there will be people who will fake the words of Bible and they are Satan's worshipers and will be punished

This text/website is definitely fake;  you might not want to share it around :P


I don't know about all the things she posted but, some of it is true. Especially the part where he wipes out a land of peoples just so the Israeli's can claim that land their own. Also, the whole thing about raping women and making them their wife, not true. Definitely, not true.
Source: I attended Christian School and actually pay attention in History. (Ironically, i'm atheist.)
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12 years, 20 weeks ago
Post #174154 Re: Today
Haze posted: (15th Dec 2012, 08:30 pm)

stava posted: (15th Dec 2012, 08:24 pm)

Elaya posted: (15th Dec 2012, 08:14 pm)

stava posted: (15th Dec 2012, 07:01 pm)

In a way it's stupid to say "Fuck the religion"

It's the reason why things like this happen

If we were all "religious" in the way that we follow what Bible says we would share love and peace, there wouldn't be people who would do shit like this..

If we followed the rules that were pointed out in Bible, doesn't matter if they were written by God or some wise person, world would be a far better place to live in.

If more people believed in heaven and hell they would care about the consequences and not feel like they are allowed to do wtf ever they want like this guy did.


SO HERE CYANIDE HERE'S YOUR -1


I disagree. I can't be bothered to type every single reason why the Bible is not at all wonderful, so this is taken from the internet:
"It always amazes me how many times this God orders the killing of innocent people even after the Ten Commandments said ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’†ÃƒƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ÃƒÆ’Æâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…“Thou shall not killÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’†ÃƒƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ÃƒÆ’Æâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚.  For example, God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21).  God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3).  He orders another attack and the killing of ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’†ÃƒƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ÃƒÆ’Æâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…“all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and assesÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’†ÃƒƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ÃƒÆ’Æâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ (Joshua 6).  In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife! Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody!  In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church!  In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered.

    The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 and Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9). 

    This type of criminal behavior should shock any moral person.  Murder, rape, pillage, plunder, slavery, and child abuse can not be justified by saying that some god says itÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’†ÃƒƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ÃƒÆ’Æâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…¾ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢s OK.  If more people would actually sit down and read the Bible there would be a lot more atheists like myself.

    Jesus also promoted the idea that all men should castrate themselves to go to heaven:  "For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother's womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."  (Matthew 19:12 ASV)  I don't know why anyone would follow the teachings of someone who literally tells all men to cut off their privates.

    The God of the Bible also was a big fan of ritual human sacrifice and animal sacrifice.

--- Rest in peace. <3

12 years, 20 weeks ago
Post #174155 Re: Today

Just my opinion:

Religion started out as a way for primitive people to try to understand the world and turned into a way for Churches to take advantage of their gullibility and monopolize power and money. It's all bullshit.

But I do acknowledge that there's a higher power, "God". I don't think that there's 1 "correct" religion though because everyone has their own relations with God. Not everyone can fit into 1 generic standard. Everyone's different.


12 years, 20 weeks ago
Post #174157 Re: Today
Haze posted: (15th Dec 2012, 08:30 pm)

stava posted: (15th Dec 2012, 08:24 pm)

Elaya posted: (15th Dec 2012, 08:14 pm)

stava posted: (15th Dec 2012, 07:01 pm)

In a way it's stupid to say "Fuck the religion"

It's the reason why things like this happen

If we were all "religious" in the way that we follow what Bible says we would share love and peace, there wouldn't be people who would do shit like this..

If we followed the rules that were pointed out in Bible, doesn't matter if they were written by God or some wise person, world would be a far better place to live in.

If more people believed in heaven and hell they would care about the consequences and not feel like they are allowed to do wtf ever they want like this guy did.


SO HERE CYANIDE HERE'S YOUR -1


I disagree. I can't be bothered to type every single reason why the Bible is not at all wonderful, so this is taken from the internet:
"It always amazes me how many times this God orders the killing of innocent people even after the Ten Commandments said ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’†ÃƒƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ÃƒÆ’Æâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…“Thou shall not killÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’†ÃƒƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ÃƒÆ’Æâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚.  For example, God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21).  God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3).  He orders another attack and the killing of ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’†ÃƒƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ÃƒÆ’Æâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…“all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and assesÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’†ÃƒƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ÃƒÆ’Æâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ (Joshua 6).  In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife! Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody!  In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church!  In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered.

    The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 and Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9). 

    This type of criminal behavior should shock any moral person.  Murder, rape, pillage, plunder, slavery, and child abuse can not be justified by saying that some god says itÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’†ÃƒƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ÃƒÆ’Æâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…¾ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢s OK.  If more people would actually sit down and read the Bible there would be a lot more atheists like myself.

    Jesus also promoted the idea that all men should castrate themselves to go to heaven:  "For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother's womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."  (Matthew 19:12 ASV)  I don't know why anyone would follow the teachings of someone who literally tells all men to cut off their privates.

    The God of the Bible also was a big fan of ritual human sacrifice and animal sacrifice.

--- Rest in peace. <3

12 years, 20 weeks ago
Post #174158 Re: Today
Haze posted: (15th Dec 2012, 08:30 pm)

stava posted: (15th Dec 2012, 08:24 pm)

Elaya posted: (15th Dec 2012, 08:14 pm)

stava posted: (15th Dec 2012, 07:01 pm)

In a way it's stupid to say "Fuck the religion"

It's the reason why things like this happen

If we were all "religious" in the way that we follow what Bible says we would share love and peace, there wouldn't be people who would do shit like this..

If we followed the rules that were pointed out in Bible, doesn't matter if they were written by God or some wise person, world would be a far better place to live in.

If more people believed in heaven and hell they would care about the consequences and not feel like they are allowed to do wtf ever they want like this guy did.


SO HERE CYANIDE HERE'S YOUR -1


I disagree. I can't be bothered to type every single reason why the Bible is not at all wonderful, so this is taken from the internet:
"It always amazes me how many times this God orders the killing of innocent people even after the Ten Commandments said ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’†ÃƒƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ÃƒÆ’Æâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…“Thou shall not killÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’†ÃƒƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ÃƒÆ’Æâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚.  For example, God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21).  God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3).  He orders another attack and the killing of ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’†ÃƒƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ÃƒÆ’Æâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…“all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and assesÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’†ÃƒƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ÃƒÆ’Æâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ (Joshua 6).  In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife! Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody!  In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church!  In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered.

    The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 and Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9). 

    This type of criminal behavior should shock any moral person.  Murder, rape, pillage, plunder, slavery, and child abuse can not be justified by saying that some god says itÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’†ÃƒƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ÃƒÆ’Æâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€ ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃÆâ€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…¾ÃÆâ€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢s OK.  If more people would actually sit down and read the Bible there would be a lot more atheists like myself.

    Jesus also promoted the idea that all men should castrate themselves to go to heaven:  "For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother's womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."  (Matthew 19:12 ASV)  I don't know why anyone would follow the teachings of someone who literally tells all men to cut off their privates.

    The God of the Bible also was a big fan of ritual human sacrifice and animal sacrifice.

12 years, 20 weeks ago

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