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stava posted: (15th Dec 2012, 12:39 am)

Elaya posted: (14th Dec 2012, 10:40 pm)

Life's a bitch. Crap things happen to people who don't deserve it. I mean, honestly, if there really is some omniscient god, where is he now? Hm? If there really is a god, he's clearly a twat for letting things like this happen.

No offense.

*awaits -1s from religious fanatics*

I don't think dying has to be a bad thing

The religious "fanatics" basically think that when you die you go to heaven which is a far better place than the world we live in..

Pain doesn't have to be bad either, in the psychic way it's connected to caring and love, physical pain keeps us from getting ourselves killed and harming our body..

I'm not completely against religion, if that's what you think. People can believe whatever they want to believe. They have their own minds and their own beliefs, as do I. The original poster asked for our thoughts, and that's just how I feel. I've tried praying in the past (when I was at my lowest) and some higher power didn't come to my rescue. In my opinion, religion is nothing more than a fantasy.

Dying does not have to be a bad thing, no. The process can't exactly be enjoyable though (unless, of course, you die peacefully in your sleep). What is a bad thing, however, is when innocent children who have yet to properly live have their lives stolen from them so soon. It's tragic and it happens everyday. I'm just saying that if there is a god - which there may be, I can't say there isn't for certain - he/she could've saved those children and those teachers, right? This "god", who is supposedly all-seeing and all-knowing, could have allowed those children to fully experience the things that any child should in life. There could be a god, sure. But if there is, he/she must be very sick minded to allow innocent people to suffer.

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Elaya posted: (15th Dec 2012, 01:37 am)

stava posted: (15th Dec 2012, 12:39 am)

Elaya posted: (14th Dec 2012, 10:40 pm)

Life's a bitch. Crap things happen to people who don't deserve it. I mean, honestly, if there really is some omniscient god, where is he now? Hm? If there really is a god, he's clearly a twat for letting things like this happen.

No offense.

*awaits -1s from religious fanatics*

I don't think dying has to be a bad thing

The religious "fanatics" basically think that when you die you go to heaven which is a far better place than the world we live in..

Pain doesn't have to be bad either, in the psychic way it's connected to caring and love, physical pain keeps us from getting ourselves killed and harming our body..

I'm not completely against religion, if that's what you think. People can believe whatever they want to believe. They have their own minds and their own beliefs, as do I. The original poster asked for our thoughts, and that's just how I feel. I've tried praying in the past (when I was at my lowest) and some higher power didn't come to my rescue. In my opinion, religion is nothing more than a fantasy.

Dying does not have to be a bad thing, no. The process can't exactly be enjoyable though (unless, of course, you die peacefully in your sleep). What is a bad thing, however, is when innocent children who have yet to live have their lives stolen from them so soon. It's tragic and it happens everyday. I'm just saying that if there is a god - which there may be, I can't say there isn't for certain - he/she could've saved those children and those teachers, right? This "god", who is supposedly all-seeing and all-knowing, could have allowed those children to fully experience the things that any child should in life. There could be a god, sure. But if there is, he/she must be very sick minded to allow innocent people to suffer.

That's pretty terrible that people are this fucked up in the head, to do stuff like this! I was really not surprised, until I seen that it was kindergartners killed...  

I am not religious, but do have my own beliefs like anyone else.

That's fine you have your own beliefs and opinions to, and I am not being an ass by saying this.

 You say you have prayed in the past when you're feeling down, and no higher power has helped. No one is going to fix things for you, but yourself. That's what kinda makes me sad, is that people depend on others and (or)'God' far too much. In my opinion, we are all here for a reason. When you say how could God let this happen to those children, remember, if there is some  kind of God, he also gave us life in the first place. The thing you said that kind of annoys me, is  'But if there is a God, he/she must be very sick minded to allow innocent people to suffer.' Obviously, if there is a God, God wouldn't want people to die, seeing as he gave us life in the first place. It just seems kind of ungrateful/ illogical to say that. If God controlled what people do on Earth, we would not have the ability think or learn for ourselves, and from our mistakes.

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shayne posted: (15th Dec 2012, 02:10 am)

Elaya posted: (15th Dec 2012, 01:37 am)

stava posted: (15th Dec 2012, 12:39 am)

Elaya posted: (14th Dec 2012, 10:40 pm)

Life's a bitch. Crap things happen to people who don't deserve it. I mean, honestly, if there really is some omniscient god, where is he now? Hm? If there really is a god, he's clearly a twat for letting things like this happen.

No offense.

*awaits -1s from religious fanatics*

I don't think dying has to be a bad thing

The religious "fanatics" basically think that when you die you go to heaven which is a far better place than the world we live in..

Pain doesn't have to be bad either, in the psychic way it's connected to caring and love, physical pain keeps us from getting ourselves killed and harming our body..

I'm not completely against religion, if that's what you think. People can believe whatever they want to believe. They have their own minds and their own beliefs, as do I. The original poster asked for our thoughts, and that's just how I feel. I've tried praying in the past (when I was at my lowest) and some higher power didn't come to my rescue. In my opinion, religion is nothing more than a fantasy.

Dying does not have to be a bad thing, no. The process can't exactly be enjoyable though (unless, of course, you die peacefully in your sleep). What is a bad thing, however, is when innocent children who have yet to live have their lives stolen from them so soon. It's tragic and it happens everyday. I'm just saying that if there is a god - which there may be, I can't say there isn't for certain - he/she could've saved those children and those teachers, right? This "god", who is supposedly all-seeing and all-knowing, could have allowed those children to fully experience the things that any child should in life. There could be a god, sure. But if there is, he/she must be very sick minded to allow innocent people to suffer.

That's pretty terrible that people are this fucked up in the head, to do stuff like this! I was really not surprised, until I seen that it was kindergartners killed...  

I am not religious, but do have my own beliefs like anyone else.

That's fine you have your own beliefs and opinions to, and I am not being an ass by saying this.

 You say you have prayed in the past when you're feeling down, and no higher power has helped. No one is going to fix things for you, but yourself. That's what kinda makes me sad, is that people depend on others and (or)'God' far too much. In my opinion, we are all here for a reason. When you say how could God let this happen to those children, remember, if there is some  kind of God, he also gave us life in the first place. The thing you said that kind of annoys me, is  'But if there is a God, he/she must be very sick minded to allow innocent people to suffer.' Obviously, if there is a God, God wouldn't want people to die, seeing as he gave us life in the first place. It just seems kind of ungrateful/ illogical to say that. If God controlled what people do on Earth, we would not have the ability think or learn for ourselves, and from our mistakes.

I think it's brilliant that we each have our own opinion, but I think you misunderstood. I meant when I was too young to "fix things for myself". You may not understand my point because I really don't want to drag personal information into this, but to cut a long story short I didn't exactly have the best childhood. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

The thing I don't understand is how this god can create an entire universe (which I find to be totally unbelievable and illogical), but is incapable of protecting innocent children. Do you not think those children were too young to protect themselves from a crazed psychopath (which, by the way, god supposedly created)? Do you think that those children should've fixed things for themselves? Perhaps I'm just being bitter because I may not have been "blessed" with the greatest of lives, but if this god is so wonderful, why does he/she give life to such sick and twisted people? According to the Bible, "God" is an omniscient being. If this is the really the case, surely he/she could have prevented this because he/she would've known this guy would turn out to be a murderer.

Of course, I do not believe there is a god. I do not believe that he/she has power over anyone. I do not believe he/she created life. I believe that this psychopath made his own choices in life and is a disgrace to society. I just don't think that if there is a god, he/she deserves such praise from, well, anyone.

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I really do not see myself as a bad person, but I honestly don't care. Thousands of people die a day. That is how I look at it. It just makes me feel lucky that me and my loved ones are still alive.

colbymsn posted: (15th Dec 2012, 02:43 am)

I really do not see myself as a bad person, but I honestly don't care. Thousands of people die a day. That is how I look at it. It just makes me feel lucky that me and my loved ones are still alive.

I agree with you... 

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( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)CTronic.org 
I'm Nutso. Keep your fingers out of my butthole.

Guys this whole argument of religion really stems to one thing, our own concept of what is ''evil''. The logical problem of evil is the logical tension in the following three statements: (1) God is all-powerful and all-wise, (2) God is all-good, and (3) evil exists. Some claim that if (1) and (2) were true, then evil would not exist. The emotional problem of evil is the emotional and religious tension people experience when they or those close to them suffer. People wrestling with the emotional problem of evil may ask God in desperation, "Why?!". 

As a person who dwells within and outside of religious views(I'm not religious but I'm also interested in the points of views and order it provides to society so I embrace some of it's views) I can make up this  answer : 

Evil is a result of peoples' free will, so God is not accountable for evil. But even though humans want to think that they are autonomously in charge of everything they choose, their will is free only in the sense that they are free to act according to their nature (i.e., their complex of attributes). Humans are not absolutely free; otherwise God would be absolutely contingent. 

colbymsn posted: (15th Dec 2012, 02:43 am)

I really do not see myself as a bad person, but I honestly don't care. Thousands of people die a day. That is how I look at it. It just makes me feel lucky that me and my loved ones are still alive.

Sure people die every day. That doesn't mean that this isn't a tragic event...

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Mouse posted: (15th Dec 2012, 03:10 am)

colbymsn posted: (15th Dec 2012, 02:43 am)

I really do not see myself as a bad person, but I honestly don't care. Thousands of people die a day. That is how I look at it. It just makes me feel lucky that me and my loved ones are still alive.

Sure people die every day. That doesn't mean that this isn't a tragic event...

Some things can be tragic with out everyone caring about it.. My dog dieing was tragic too me but half the people in my town didn't give a shit.. my niece dieing due to doctors fucking up was tragic but the city didn't care. 

Tragedy is in the eye of the beholder.. Just like beauty. 

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( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)CTronic.org 
I'm Nutso. Keep your fingers out of my butthole.

My family and I were raised Roman Catholic, but as I grew up, my views and opinions changed. I am an Agnostic. Agnostics do not believe in God, but only due to a lack of empirical evidence. I still retain all the values and knowledge I grew up with, making myself a well-rounded person/gentleman. I still follow the 10 commandments because to me, they now feel like common sense. I still believe everyone should be following them regardless because it keeps some sort of peace and organization in the world.

I don't want to get into a needless argument so I will not explain further.

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Cyanide posted: (15th Dec 2012, 03:16 am)

Mouse posted: (15th Dec 2012, 03:10 am)

colbymsn posted: (15th Dec 2012, 02:43 am)

I really do not see myself as a bad person, but I honestly don't care. Thousands of people die a day. That is how I look at it. It just makes me feel lucky that me and my loved ones are still alive.

Sure people die every day. That doesn't mean that this isn't a tragic event...

Some things can be tragic with out everyone caring about it.. My dog dieing was tragic too me but half the people in my town didn't give a shit.. my niece dieing due to doctors fucking up was tragic but the city didn't care. 

Tragedy is in the eye of the beholder.. Just like beauty. 

I dont see beauty in it. This dude is nothing but a coward. I'm glad he is out out of the gene pool

It's just fuck Adam Lanza, he would rot in hell for all eternity.

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If you kill someone you should go to hell, but killing kids? You should go to hell x1000 and Hell lord put all his deamons raping you for the eternity, flames should burn your skin untill your eyes become like boiled eggs. He should be a great mother f...er ass to do that to those people that died.
But in the other side, kids dying from hunger everyday in some countries and none of us give a shit, kids died recently in Israel and Gaza and none cared or did something to stop war. Kids used in prostitution every day and some western civilization guys pay for that too. If you think life is fair no. This is a cruel world and kids suffer every day from the adult's stupidity. The most innocent creature in the world are kids. There are the most vulnerable too.

Elaya posted: (15th Dec 2012, 01:37 am)

stava posted: (15th Dec 2012, 12:39 am)

Elaya posted: (14th Dec 2012, 10:40 pm)

Life's a bitch. Crap things happen to people who don't deserve it. I mean, honestly, if there really is some omniscient god, where is he now? Hm? If there really is a god, he's clearly a twat for letting things like this happen.

No offense.

*awaits -1s from religious fanatics*

I don't think dying has to be a bad thing

The religious "fanatics" basically think that when you die you go to heaven which is a far better place than the world we live in..

Pain doesn't have to be bad either, in the psychic way it's connected to caring and love, physical pain keeps us from getting ourselves killed and harming our body..

I'm not completely against religion, if that's what you think. People can believe whatever they want to believe. They have their own minds and their own beliefs, as do I. The original poster asked for our thoughts, and that's just how I feel. I've tried praying in the past (when I was at my lowest) and some higher power didn't come to my rescue. In my opinion, religion is nothing more than a fantasy.

Dying does not have to be a bad thing, no. The process can't exactly be enjoyable though (unless, of course, you die peacefully in your sleep). What is a bad thing, however, is when innocent children who have yet to properly live have their lives stolen from them so soon. It's tragic and it happens everyday. I'm just saying that if there is a god - which there may be, I can't say there isn't for certain - he/she could've saved those children and those teachers, right? This "god", who is supposedly all-seeing and all-knowing, could have allowed those children to fully experience the things that any child should in life. There could be a god, sure. But if there is, he/she must be very sick minded to allow innocent people to suffer.

Maybe he did save them from living in this stupid planet lol

Maybe in the other world they can live and experience things that every child should :P