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What are some problems you come across with mapping a very large scale map lets say about 150 x150?

well ive already started mapping it i just dont wanna regret it after i finish it because its having a lot of problems with loading and such.

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From personal experience anything over 100 x 100 can be problematic, not impossible.

what problems???....

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Walls. Hate the damn walls. WALLLSSS!

wtf?... very irrelevant mann...

why are ur replies always so irrelevant to the topic- i promise u are very irrelevant all the time.

by saying you hate doing the walls thats ur personal problem - not a problem u encounter while using the map... please read the question

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Bladex posted: (22nd Nov 2012, 08:14 am)

wtf?... very irrelevant mann...

why are ur replies always so irrelevant to the topic- i promise u are very irrelevant all the time.

by saying you hate doing the walls thats ur personal problem - not a problem u encounter while using the map... please read the question

I don't think he understands English. Anyways I think after a certain size the server doesn't read the map, but I may be wrong I just thought I saw something along those lines once. Also 150x150 you shouldn't encounter any issue unless you put alot of shadows in it or have it have tons of npc's spawning all over. I've made some 150x150 and they worked fine.

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maps over 100x100 sometimes dont load i remember i did a 150x150 map and when i put it in a server the whole map didnt load it was black

Tiduss posted: (22nd Nov 2012, 10:33 am)

maps over 100x100 sometimes dont load i remember i did a 150x150 map and when i put it in a server the whole map didnt load it was black

I thought it was anything over 200 didn't load. x_x

Also who ever -1 you is stupid. -.-'' I fixed it.

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lol i dont care about karma but thanks, ya i think your right cant remember how big my rpg map was but it didnt work and i spent so much time on it x3

i can think of these off hand and only one cup of Coffee

1. maps over a certain size "KB" Must be included in the client map folder to load proper.

2. i have seen map editor move some  tiles/ and or objects around during multi re-saves like you will find tiles up in the x0 and y0 area's

3. seen a few numbered walls get changed to another number wall "mostly From useng rena's editor then eo map"

4. the map line 127 x or y always forces a "hiccup" or some type of refresh when crossing 127 x or y

5. shadows...Mainly original eo ones that overlap by even one pixel can cause. what some call page flipping. and seems like lag.

 

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make posted: (22nd Nov 2012, 03:43 pm)

i can think of these off hand and only one cup of Coffee

1. maps over a certain size "KB" Must be included in the client map folder to load proper.

2. i have seen map editor move some  tiles/ and or objects around during multi re-saves like you will find tiles up in the x0 and y0 area's

3. seen a few numbered walls get changed to another number wall "mostly From useng rena's editor then eo map"

4. the map line 127 x or y always forces a "hiccup" or some type of refresh when crossing 127 x or y

5. shadows...Mainly original eo ones that overlap by even one pixel can cause. what some call page flipping. and seems like lag.

 

This exactly^ and what Kyle said. Once you hit the 100 mark you will experience some map problems. Lag to say the least. What you should be paying more attention to is the KB size. That will cause the most problems. Adding less objects to the map or placing them in bunches will decrease the size.

make posted: (22nd Nov 2012, 03:43 pm)

i can think of these off hand and only one cup of Coffee

1. maps over a certain size "KB" Must be included in the client map folder to load proper.

2. i have seen map editor move some  tiles/ and or objects around during multi re-saves like you will find tiles up in the x0 and y0 area's

3. seen a few numbered walls get changed to another number wall "mostly From useng rena's editor then eo map"

4. the map line 127 x or y always forces a "hiccup" or some type of refresh when crossing 127 x or y

5. shadows...Mainly original eo ones that overlap by even one pixel can cause. what some call page flipping. and seems like lag.

 

Now that is what i call a pro mapper. Honestly everything he said is what happens. Especially with walls they like to switch ids, and using multiple editors is what causes it.

bone posted: (21st Nov 2012, 05:16 pm)

From personal experience anything over 100 x 100 can be problematic, not impossible.

What Bone says is true, i have had problems with maps over 100 x 100.  So id try keeping it under 100 x 100.

bone posted: (22nd Nov 2012, 04:23 pm)

make posted: (22nd Nov 2012, 03:43 pm)

i can think of these off hand and only one cup of Coffee

1. maps over a certain size "KB" Must be included in the client map folder to load proper.

2. i have seen map editor move some  tiles/ and or objects around during multi re-saves like you will find tiles up in the x0 and y0 area's

3. seen a few numbered walls get changed to another number wall "mostly From useng rena's editor then eo map"

4. the map line 127 x or y always forces a "hiccup" or some type of refresh when crossing 127 x or y

5. shadows...Mainly original eo ones that overlap by even one pixel can cause. what some call page flipping. and seems like lag.

 

Now that is what i call a pro mapper. Honestly everything he said is what happens. Especially with walls they like to switch ids, and using multiple editors is what causes it.

well maybe not pro but i have glitched enough maps over the last few years to see almost every one that can be made. and how to get lucky on a few.

i would say try......... i looked threw my map folder and found this old hell map i edited  . its 200x200. was going to add more but it got lost in all the maps. so 200x200 is very possible too

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Thank you very much for replying

The only problem i came across with so far is it not loading because kb is too big

and straight away i remembered you say something about it not loading properly if its not included in the client folder so that helped me alot :D

thanks again

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