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Hello sineth. I am really sorry this happened to you and I am not sure why azzan would do something like that, but I will pay you back when I have enough money. I hope this doesn't ruin the server for you and I hope you will check it out after this happened. I take full responsibly for his actions and I am really sorry.

I do not see how Azzan scamming you though would have to do anything with our hole team. The Fk team works by them selves and I keep them on track. I have nothing to do with the transaction between you and azzan nor does my team. So I appreciate it if you do not go throwing names around like that. I can see why you would be mad though. Saying what I said above the server itself has nothing to do with the scam other than azzan worked for us.

brenm15 posted: (14th Sep 2012, 05:24 pm)

I dont think it is fair to say not to trust people who work with him...i work with him and we have never spoken before

I agree with this, I've spoken to other members of the Fallen Kingdom staff and they seem pretty decent. "Hate the player, not the game."

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colbymsn posted: (14th Sep 2012, 06:19 pm)

Hello sineth. I am really sorry this happened to you and I am not sure why azzan would do something like that, but I will pay you back when I have enough money. I hope this doesn't ruin the server for you and I hope you will check it out after this happened. I take full responsibly for his actions and I am really sorry.

I do not see how Azzan scamming you though would have to do anything with our hole team. The Fk team works by them selves and I keep them on track. I have nothing to do with the transaction between you and azzan nor does my team. So I appreciate it if you do not go throwing names around like that. I can see why you would be mad though. Saying what I said above the server itself has nothing to do with the scam other than azzan worked for us.

Colby, I understand why you would say it has nothing to do with the FK team but it really does. Its like a company hiring a thief then that thief steals some cash out of a wallet, the company can't just dismiss it and say oh well its fine it was his choice not ours so please don't let this effect your views on us. In reality the company would take action and fire said employee. 

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Simply put the people you hire reflects your company as a hole, whether it be a free game or a multi-million dollar corporation. 

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Cyanide posted: (14th Sep 2012, 06:49 pm)

colbymsn posted: (14th Sep 2012, 06:19 pm)

Hello sineth. I am really sorry this happened to you and I am not sure why azzan would do something like that, but I will pay you back when I have enough money. I hope this doesn't ruin the server for you and I hope you will check it out after this happened. I take full responsibly for his actions and I am really sorry.

I do not see how Azzan scamming you though would have to do anything with our hole team. The Fk team works by them selves and I keep them on track. I have nothing to do with the transaction between you and azzan nor does my team. So I appreciate it if you do not go throwing names around like that. I can see why you would be mad though. Saying what I said above the server itself has nothing to do with the scam other than azzan worked for us.

Colby, I understand why you would say it has nothing to do with the FK team but it really does. Its like a company hiring a thief then that thief steals some cash out of a wallet, the company can't just dismiss it and say oh well its fine it was his choice not ours so please don't let this effect your views on us. In reality the company would take action and fire said employee. 

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Simply put the people you hire reflects your company as a hole, whether it be a free game or a multi-million dollar corporation. 

This is quite obvious Cyanide. But the way that Sineth has thrown this away on this topic, it looked like that our server was a thief you know. Perhaps if he had said nothing about FK, or including FK on this topic, perhaps people wouldn't have that view upon the server. What Sineth should have done, was PMing Colby first and Colby would take the action that Azzan deserves, without too much scandal. But I understand his frustration, I just think it should have been told in a different way.

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Flame posted: (14th Sep 2012, 07:01 pm)

Cyanide posted: (14th Sep 2012, 06:49 pm)

colbymsn posted: (14th Sep 2012, 06:19 pm)

Hello sineth. I am really sorry this happened to you and I am not sure why azzan would do something like that, but I will pay you back when I have enough money. I hope this doesn't ruin the server for you and I hope you will check it out after this happened. I take full responsibly for his actions and I am really sorry.

I do not see how Azzan scamming you though would have to do anything with our hole team. The Fk team works by them selves and I keep them on track. I have nothing to do with the transaction between you and azzan nor does my team. So I appreciate it if you do not go throwing names around like that. I can see why you would be mad though. Saying what I said above the server itself has nothing to do with the scam other than azzan worked for us.

Colby, I understand why you would say it has nothing to do with the FK team but it really does. Its like a company hiring a thief then that thief steals some cash out of a wallet, the company can't just dismiss it and say oh well its fine it was his choice not ours so please don't let this effect your views on us. In reality the company would take action and fire said employee. 

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Simply put the people you hire reflects your company as a hole, whether it be a free game or a multi-million dollar corporation. 

This is quite obvious Cyanide. But the way that Sineth has thrown this away on this topic, it looked like that our server was a thief you know. Perhaps if he had said nothing about FK, or including FK on this topic, perhaps people wouldn't have that view upon the server. What Sineth should have done, was PMing Colby first and Colby would take the action the Azzan deserves, without to much scandal. But I understand his frustration, I just think it should have been told in a different way.

Disagree, I think he did it just fine. The point is a company needs to be held accountable for the people they "hire". Its like walmart, yes you should call the manager but you should also tell all your friends who shop there and or will shop there in the future about your discontent with the employees. 

I see why you and Colby care so much, but maybe you guys should do better checks on people, Azzan is known for being a trouble maker in private servers that he has been mod on so why even include him in this project? 

But I regress, this has nothing to do with me so I'm gone. 

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Cyanide posted: (14th Sep 2012, 07:07 pm)

Flame posted: (14th Sep 2012, 07:01 pm)

Cyanide posted: (14th Sep 2012, 06:49 pm)

colbymsn posted: (14th Sep 2012, 06:19 pm)

Hello sineth. I am really sorry this happened to you and I am not sure why azzan would do something like that, but I will pay you back when I have enough money. I hope this doesn't ruin the server for you and I hope you will check it out after this happened. I take full responsibly for his actions and I am really sorry.

I do not see how Azzan scamming you though would have to do anything with our hole team. The Fk team works by them selves and I keep them on track. I have nothing to do with the transaction between you and azzan nor does my team. So I appreciate it if you do not go throwing names around like that. I can see why you would be mad though. Saying what I said above the server itself has nothing to do with the scam other than azzan worked for us.

Colby, I understand why you would say it has nothing to do with the FK team but it really does. Its like a company hiring a thief then that thief steals some cash out of a wallet, the company can't just dismiss it and say oh well its fine it was his choice not ours so please don't let this effect your views on us. In reality the company would take action and fire said employee. 

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Simply put the people you hire reflects your company as a hole, whether it be a free game or a multi-million dollar corporation. 

This is quite obvious Cyanide. But the way that Sineth has thrown this away on this topic, it looked like that our server was a thief you know. Perhaps if he had said nothing about FK, or including FK on this topic, perhaps people wouldn't have that view upon the server. What Sineth should have done, was PMing Colby first and Colby would take the action the Azzan deserves, without to much scandal. But I understand his frustration, I just think it should have been told in a different way.

Disagree, I think he did it just fine. The point is a company needs to be held accountable for the people they "hire". Its like walmart, yes you should call the manager but you should also tell all your friends who shop there and or will shop there in the future about your discontent with the employees. 

I see why you and Colby care so much, but maybe you guys should do better checks on people, Azzan is known for being a trouble maker in private servers that he has been mod on so why even include him in this project? 

But I regress, this has nothing to do with me so I'm gone. 

I respect your point of view and I agree I should of did a better check up on him. I guess I was just so amazed at his mapping skills I forgot all about checking up on him and now it fucked me over. 

Cyanide, Azzan's actions on his personal life or here in eoserv cannot reflect on our server at all. Just because he is part of the staff, it doesn't mean that if he has done something wrong everyone must know that our server has a thief part of the staff. This are personal subjects between the owner, or manager as you have noted it down, and the victim. What I am trying to say is that Azzan didn't stole Sineth in the game, or in our forums or website. He had stolen Sineth on the eoserv community or else where Idk, this shouldn't be reflected into our server. If Sineth would like to warn us about what kind of person Azzan is, he should have Pmed Colby first. But yeah, we will take care next time we hire someone.

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Flame posted: (14th Sep 2012, 07:12 pm)

Cyanide, Azzan's actions on his personal life or here in eoserv cannot reflect on our server at all. Just because he is part of the staff, it doesn't mean that if he has done something wrong everyone must know that our server has a thief part of the staff. This are personal subjects between the owner, or manager as you have noted it down, and the victim. What I am trying to say is that Azzan didn't stole Sineth in the game, or in our forums or website. He had stolen Sineth on the eoserv community or else where Idk, this shouldn't be reflected into our server. If Sineth would like to warn us about what kind of person Azzan is, he should have Pmed Colby first. But yeah, we will take care next time we hire someone.

Yeah your done, I was trying to be civil about this and just drop it. But your so wrong right now, what are you 13-16? Do you not understand if a company hires a thief and if that thief steals from some one during the companies time, even the time of employment that person is fired on the spot and if it happens in store the company is held liable. I understand this didn't happen on your server but the fact he's part of your team and representing the server at all times of employment. So with that the server should be brought into the picture, maybe not held responsible for it, but still the people/players (US) have the right to hear that one of your staff members is a thief and if that changes our views about your server then so be it. You can keep trying to defend your server its more then understandable, this doesn't change my view on the server btw. But what I'm getting at is you seem to have no fucking business ethics or knowledge behind that thick copyrighted avatar of your's. 

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Cyanide posted: (14th Sep 2012, 07:22 pm)

Flame posted: (14th Sep 2012, 07:12 pm)

Cyanide, Azzan's actions on his personal life or here in eoserv cannot reflect on our server at all. Just because he is part of the staff, it doesn't mean that if he has done something wrong everyone must know that our server has a thief part of the staff. This are personal subjects between the owner, or manager as you have noted it down, and the victim. What I am trying to say is that Azzan didn't stole Sineth in the game, or in our forums or website. He had stolen Sineth on the eoserv community or else where Idk, this shouldn't be reflected into our server. If Sineth would like to warn us about what kind of person Azzan is, he should have Pmed Colby first. But yeah, we will take care next time we hire someone.

Yeah your done, I was trying to be civil about this and just drop it. But your so wrong right now, what are you 13-16? Do you not understand if a company hires a thief and if that thief steals from some one during the companies time, even the time of employment that person is fired on the spot and if it happens in store the company is held liable. I understand this didn't happen on your server but the fact he's part of your team and representing the server at all times of employment. So with that the server should be brought into the picture, maybe not held responsible for it, but still the people/players (US) have the right to hear that one of your staff members is a thief and if that changes our views about your server then so be it. You can keep trying to defend your server its more then understandable, this doesn't change my view on the server btw. But what I'm getting at is you seem to have no fucking business ethics or knowledge behind that thick copyrighted avatar of your's. 

Oh, I thought that Azzann was buying these pixels for his own personal use. If he was buying them for the server then I agree with you completely. This doesn't change my opinion of any other FK staff (because like I said, they seem pretty decent), but it makes sense to warn people so that they know to be cautious when making a transaction with Azzann. I think that saying not to play the server at all is a bit extreme though, because I'm sure that Colby has the common sense to fire Azzann from the FK team now. On a lighter note, at least you can learn from these mistakes. Although none of this should have happened in the first place, sometimes the only way to learn is the hard way.

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He is fired by now, right?

he can easily just change his name on the staff/server U will never know xD

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Minato posted: (14th Sep 2012, 07:44 pm)

he can easily just change his name on the staff/server U will never know xD

Actually he is fired and I do not see why I would rehire him if he made a new account with a new name. I know him pretty well and I know his mapping style.

Nooo bby:( I thought I told you to make sure they send the money as a gift and include a text saying non refundable purchase, or something along those lines. Pretty messed up thing he did. Shame this happend, you don't deserve it. Maybe he will come around but the odds of that happening are slim. Try and get to know someone way before doing buisness with them online. Though you'll never really, fully know them it's better to have an idea of who your doing buisness with. He always seemed alittle shady to me personally.

colby my mapping style is similar to azzan except im better x3 lol how would you tell the difference i laughed wen i saw u said amazed by his maps they arnt that amazing compare to most mappers here and sorry to hear about the cash thing sineth i didnt really trust nor like azzan in the first play :p

Wow, I hate people like this. It also happened to me on main while I was selling a lvl 51. After the guy got the info and I got the money he reclaimed it :L. So I feel your pain man, I quit main because of this.