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Post #153148 My RAT - Sort of..

Before you rape my thread, let me say this:

I have developed a client and server that you can bind with an .exe, like a RAT, but you do not have Remote Administrator Tools. It displays everyone's IPs and what they're doing, but you can't see their desktop and you cannot do anything beyond that.

This is a program you can use instead of a cheat guard, if you do not have the skills to build one.

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12 years, 41 weeks ago
Post #153149 Re: My RAT - Sort of..

not a fan, it might be able to be manipulated to do more than just that, making it easier for people who want to fuck with others.

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12 years, 41 weeks ago
Post #153150 Re: My RAT - Sort of..

That's called, believe it or not, spyware. Go figure.

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12 years, 41 weeks ago
Post #153151 Re: My RAT - Sort of..

Could I possibly mention this "spyware" in the terms and conditions/agreements? For the Game I mean.

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12 years, 41 weeks ago
Post #153153 Re: My RAT - Sort of..

Sure, why not?

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12 years, 41 weeks ago
Post #153154 Re: My RAT - Sort of..

That's good then. Don't wanna get in trouble or anything >.>

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12 years, 41 weeks ago
Post #153156 Re: My RAT - Sort of..

You might consider going the route of some other people and just adding a client-side program blacklist using WinAPIs like EnumWindows

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12 years, 41 weeks ago
Post #153157 Re: My RAT - Sort of..

Cautious people probably won't download your game though.

12 years, 41 weeks ago
Post #153161 Re: My RAT - Sort of..

thats not a game guard , thats called abusing people.....
the easiest method of a game guard , that you inject a dll with the game exe, that scans for  certain windows and process names and scans for certain strings in opened windows .....

12 years, 41 weeks ago
Post #153172 Re: My RAT - Sort of..
error posted: (20th Jul 2012, 12:17 am)

thats not a game guard , thats called abusing people.....
the easiest method of a game guard , that you inject a dll with the game exe, that scans for  certain windows and process names and scans for certain strings in opened windows .....


I have complete control over my game. I have developed it myself, meaning I do not have a team to manage the game and players, and so I want direct proof of 3rd party programs.
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12 years, 41 weeks ago
Post #153174 Re: My RAT - Sort of..

Yes, but the invasion of privacy is too far. I would just create an online list of memory editing/dll injecting programs and shutdown and report the ip to the server using what error suggested.

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12 years, 41 weeks ago
Post #153179 Re: My RAT - Sort of..
Wildsurvival posted: (20th Jul 2012, 12:59 am)

Yes, but the invasion of privacy is too far. I would just create an online list of memory editing/dll injecting programs and shutdown and report the ip to the server using what error suggested.


Thanks for the idea!
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12 years, 41 weeks ago
Post #153181 Re: My RAT - Sort of..

No problem :P

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12 years, 41 weeks ago
Post #153183 Re: My RAT - Sort of..

I honestly support this idea, just not the execution. Rather than dropping the program like 'gameguard' does, i believe it should do ask described - take the person's IP address and their currently running tasks and report them to the server. BUT I don't think anyone should have any control with that information beyond the server software itself. The server should be able to check running processes and if say a packet manipulation program is running you will be kicked with a warning message and 1 strike into their account information (do this using the mysql database). Then if they are caught again, strike 2 and t (maybe 60 mins?) ban again presented with a warning message about abuse. if caught a third time all characters will be reverted to having no items and a t day(s) ban. This would be a great feature without being abusive imho.


I apologize for my horrible grammar, I'm tired.

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12 years, 41 weeks ago
Post #153187 Re: My RAT - Sort of..

Even having it check running processes is an invasion of privacy. Blizzard Entertainment has an anti-cheat system built into their games called the Warden. It watches different memory values depending on what it feels like watching at the time, and if they are manipulated at all, the game shuts itself down and a report is generated and sent to Blizzard about what was edited, how and why. When Warden was first announced, there was a massive outcry because its original intention was to watch the processes list, the reason it does not is because Blizzard's legal team advised them not to do it.

There is also an interesting thing that stops the game from running if you have specific things open. For instance, if you have any window open that has the words "Cheat Engine" in the header, their games will simply not launch at all until that window is closed.

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