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Sordie posted: (10th Mar 2012, 04:55 pm)

As much as I didn't want to get involved with this kind of thing....

Misca posted: (7th Mar 2012, 09:49 pm)

look at what hitler did, he had kids as young as 6 years old fight in his "Hitler youth" when he couldn't get enough teens and young adults to fight in world war two. Did anyone make a big deal about it then? No

Um.. Yeah. I mean, I wasn't there in person or anything but I do believe people DID make a big deal about it. I'm no historian or anything but I do vaguely remember some kind of "Balder von shirach is a bad baby sitter" kind of lesson at school... Seriously "Did anyone make a big deal about it"?Seriously? SERIOUSLY? *Rolls eyes, exits the forum*

Emphasis on the "Did anyone make a big deal about it THEN". The last 15 or so years is when people have made a big deal about what went on.

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Yeah. European history 1939-1945.. Apparently there are a few old dusty books that cover this quiet, "Nothing much happened" era. Some even mention Hitler. Despite other atrocities can you believe that people still found the time to try and protect inoccent children? Hard to believe I know. (Probably just overdosed on sarcasm so I'll shutdown my computer now and go do something more productive.. like hit my head on a wall)

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Sordie posted: (10th Mar 2012, 05:12 pm)

Yeah. European history 1939-1945.. Apparently there are a few old dusty books that cover this quiet, "Nothing much happened" era. Some even mention Hitler. Despite other atrocities can you believe that people still found the time to try and protect inoccent children? Hard to believe I know.(Probably just overdosed on sarcasm so I'll shutdown my computer now and go do something more productive.. like hit my head on a wall)

Once again, I wish you would have read my post clearly. I was talking about the Hitler Youth and how Hitler forced them to fight. Once again, I go back to "No one cared about the Hitler Youth after the war was over", only recently have holocaust survivors and others made a big deal about it. Wish people would read the entire thing before they post <.<

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Misca posted: (10th Mar 2012, 05:17 pm)

Once again, I wish you would have read my post clearly. I was talking about the Hitler Youth and how Hitler forced them to fight. Once again, I go back to "No one cared about the Hitler Youth after the war was over", only recently have holocaust survivors and others made a big deal about it. Wish people would read the entire thing before they post <.<

I've actually read your post multiple times and at no point can I find the text you have put in quotation marks. Seems you're misquoting yourself. Besides that, people DID care about the "Hitler youth" before, during and after the war so I'm still not sure where you are coming from. And if you really think that "only recently have holocaust survivors and others made a big deal about it." then I fear the current education system is in disarray.

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Sordie posted: (10th Mar 2012, 05:27 pm)

Misca posted: (10th Mar 2012, 05:17 pm)

Once again, I wish you would have read my post clearly. I was talking about the Hitler Youth and how Hitler forced them to fight. Once again, I go back to "No one cared about the Hitler Youth after the war was over", only recently have holocaust survivors and others made a big deal about it. Wishpeople would read the entire thing before they post <.<

I've actually read your post multiple times and at no point can I find the text you have put in quotation marks. Seems you're misquoting yourself. Besides that, people DID care about the "Hitler youth" before, during and after the war so I'm still not sure where you are coming from. And if youreally think that "only recently have holocaust survivors and others made a big deal about it." then I fear the current education system is in disarray.

 

holyshit sordies pretty XD

 

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Sordie posted: (10th Mar 2012, 05:27 pm)

Misca posted: (10th Mar 2012, 05:17 pm)

Once again, I wish you would have read my post clearly. I was talking about the Hitler Youth and how Hitler forced them to fight. Once again, I go back to "No one cared about the Hitler Youth after the war was over", only recently have holocaust survivors and others made a big deal about it.Wishpeople would read the entire thing before they post <.<

I've actually read your post multiple times and at no point can I find the text you have put in quotation marks. Seems you're misquoting yourself. Besides that, people DID care about the "Hitler youth" before, during and after the war so I'm still not sure where you are coming from. And ifyoureally think that "only recently have holocaust survivors and others made a big deal about it." then I fear the current education system is in disarray.

Well your fears are valid, some schools in the USA make Hitler look like a hero. Or to an extent that he was a very smart guy that controlled his country well, just he shouldn't have killed people. There are many countries that actually hold Hitler as a hero and celebrate him in this day and age.(Wont get into all that)

But yes people made a big BIG deal about Hitler. Even FDR made a big deal about Hitler and wanted to enter the war. (Not sure if he wanted to enter the war, or was just putting on a show.) Though congress did not want to thrust America into another war. Congress wanted Europe to deal with Europe's problem.

Then Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, and that attack drummed up support from alot of Americans. Yet it caused alot of problems as well. I believe congress finally accepted going into war when Hitler declared war on the USA.

Edit: Yes people cared about Hitlers Youth after the war was over. There was even man hunts over some of them so they can be tried for war crimes. Hitlers Youth was the worst thing that Hitler did. Hitler created mindless slaves (that is how they acted) to do his bidding. There were missions to help, and people that supported all of this. Sure Government did not fully care, and its not for the government to fully care. Its for the people to decide if they care enough to help.

Good men did not become great, they just did not jump off the cliff like everyone else.

Also, Invisible Children want the military to get involved in this.

The army is made of children. They're trying to protect the children. The only way for the military to get Kony is to get passed the children, and that means wounding/killing the children.

And since when has America been police of the world?

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Belac posted: (11th Mar 2012, 02:03 pm)

Also, Invisible Children want the military to get involved in this.

The army is made of children. They're trying to protect the children. The only way for the military to get Kony is to get passed the children, and that means wounding/killing the children.

And since when has America been police of the world?

Since they became a superpower. I live in Ireland. We can't do FUCK NOTHING because of how small it is. As goes for other countries. America and Russia are the two most powerful countries in the world. That's why everyone is turning to them.

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kodyt posted: (10th Mar 2012, 12:44 am)

AustinB posted: (9th Mar 2012, 04:34 am)

Please explain to me why Digitx gets -4 for this post:

It's thinking like this that makes the united states look like a bunch of selfish assholes. It's disgusting that a majority of people believe we shouldn't try to help lesser countires, because what? They have less money? Every person in this world is equal, everyone shouldbeallowedtolivefreely,and without fear. A great majority of this world still lives in fear, fear that some day their leaders could arrest, and possible kill them.

While Kody posts images making fun of the act, and he gets +1'd? How fucking sick are you people?

Just another example on why the rating system needs to return to how it was, with only admins +1-2ing and -1,2ing.

On the topic:

I agree that Kony needs to be stopped, but I don't think that the U.S. should intervene that much. Maybe try to capture the asshole, and if that fails then put it on hold for awhile, until as Haze posted, we fix some of our own issues.

inb4 multiple -1's

Get over it I've always got + points for trolling well you get -1 points for posting good shit... All of them eo kids are sick puppies.. e-sex/e-dating/e-jerkin to pixels.. smh


On topic:

As I was informed from a reliable source:

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Kony's already been pretty much stopped, he lives in the Congo and hasn't fucked with Uganda in years. The Ugandan army finally beat his ass back into the bush. They would go in every once in a while and smack him around. The UN told the Ugandan Army to leave him alone. So they have.ThiswholeKonything is a lil late. This kind of shit happens over there all the time, 10,000 men women and children slaughtered with the blessing of the UN on the Ivory Coast. Because the UN didn't like the legally elected president. Typical America, coming to the party late.

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 First off I really didn't want to get into this, but other nations really should be "grateful" to America. If we didn't get into the things we did, we would still have Kings/Queens. Once America fought for "Our Land" things slowly began to change. America didn't want to get involve with WWIand WWII, but if we didn't things would be a lot worse. We didn't get into WWII until Japan attacked us first. We/America take our time to decide on most things. Well maybe the World would be better place if the US didn't "save the day". At less we would have less "cry baby's" in the World. 

@ Belac 

  We didn't become the "police of the world" There is many other country's in the UN not just the US. 

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dedwcdustin posted: (12th Mar 2012, 01:45 am)

kodyt posted: (10th Mar 2012, 12:44 am)

AustinB posted: (9th Mar 2012, 04:34 am)

Please explain to me why Digitx gets -4 for this post:

It's thinking like this that makes the united states look like a bunch of selfish assholes. It's disgusting that a majority of people believe we shouldn't try to help lesser countires, because what? They have less money? Every person in this world is equal, everyoneshouldbeallowedtolivefreely,and without fear. A great majority of this world still lives in fear, fear that some day their leaders could arrest, and possible kill them.

While Kody posts images making fun of the act, and he gets +1'd? How fucking sick are you people?

Just another example on why the rating system needs to return to how it was, with only admins +1-2ing and -1,2ing.

On the topic:

I agree that Kony needs to be stopped, but I don't think that the U.S. should intervene that much. Maybe try to capture the asshole, and if that fails then put it on hold for awhile, until as Haze posted, we fix some of our own issues.

inb4 multiple -1's

Get over it I've always got + points for trolling well you get -1 points for posting good shit... All of them eo kids are sick puppies.. e-sex/e-dating/e-jerkin to pixels.. smh


On topic:

As I was informed from a reliable source:

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Kony's already been pretty much stopped, he lives in the Congo and hasn't fucked with Uganda in years. The Ugandan army finally beat his ass back into the bush. They would go in every once in a while and smack him around. The UN told the Ugandan Army to leave him alone. So theyhave.ThiswholeKonything is a lil late. This kind of shit happens over there all the time, 10,000 men women and children slaughtered with the blessing of the UN on the Ivory Coast. Because the UN didn't like the legally elected president. Typical America, coming to the party late.

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 First off I really didn't want to get into this, but other nations really should be "grateful" to America. If we didn't get into the things we did, we would still have Kings/Queens. Once America fought for "Our Land" things slowly began to change. America didn't want to get involve withWWIand WWII, but if we didn't things would be a lot worse. We didn't get into WWII until Japan attacked us first. We/America take our time to decide on most things. Well maybe the World would be better place if the US didn't "save the day". At less we would have less "cry baby's" in theWorld. 

@ Belac 

  We didn't become the "police of the world" There is many other country's in the UN not just the US. 

That doesn't make sense. A majority of countries are still under monarchy even if they have a king/queen followed by an oligarchy, other countries are greatful, how would you expect them to show it? Most of the countries the US helps are of agricultural development. The United States also takes advantage of the resources, for example why would the US even get involved with countries for oil export? It's because they need it, and it is more scarce in the US, otherwise the US most likely wouldn't bother with that country. What reason is there to be greatful for that? You call other countries cry babies, but have you ever put yourself into the shoes of that country's inhabitants. You have no idea..

Think about it like this:

If we end up with a bad leader, and let's say, Russia, came in and went to war with us to get rid of our bad leader, wouldn't we be pretty pissed?

'cause that's exactly what the US is doing with other countries. We're killing our American soldiers for war we shouldn't even be in.

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@Mitch if you want to get technical, the U.S does not need anyone in terms of oil. If we as a nation(looks a Obama) wanted to, we could off shore drill in the gulf. There is so much oil located their that it would last for a verrrrrry long time, however Obama said no to that idea and yes, that's the reason we are bothering with 3rd world countries, however that's not the only reason.. Terrorism is a big factor. 

If you want to think of the United States as 'world police' or whatever the statement above mentioned, then that's fine, I mean.. We do have military bases located within multiple countries around the world.

Not only the oil thing in Iraq, there's Lithium there. $3(?) trillion worth of it.

Lithium is used to make: computers, phones, and soon-to-be electric cars.

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R o n n i e posted: (12th Mar 2012, 03:16 am)

@Mitch if you want to get technical, the U.S does not need anyone in terms of oil. If we as a nation(looks a Obama) wanted to, we could off shore drill in the gulf. There is so much oil located their that it would last for a verrrrrry long time, however Obama said no to that ideaandyes,that'sthe reason we are bothering with 3rd world countries, however that's not the only reason.. Terrorism is a big factor. 

If you want to think of the United States as 'world police'orwhateverthestatement above mentioned, then that's fine, I mean.. We do have military bases located within multiple countries around the world.

Ah of course, there are places like in South Dakota that have oil, the reason why they are interested in these other countries though are that when those countries are out of oil. The US can go to its own oil reserves while the other country's resources have become scarce. I guess I didn'tclarifyinmy previous post. Thats why I'm sure the next wars will be over resources, some already are. I wouldn't call the US the world police though, despite the multiple military bases located around the world.

MitchV2 posted: (12th Mar 2012, 03:38 am)

R o n n i e posted: (12th Mar 2012, 03:16 am)

@Mitch if you want to get technical, the U.S does not need anyone in terms of oil. If we as a nation(looks a Obama) wanted to, we could off shore drill in the gulf. There is so much oil located their that it would last for a verrrrrry long time, however Obama said no to that ideaandyes,that'sthe reason we are bothering with 3rd world countries, however that's not the only reason.. Terrorism is a big factor. 

If you want to think of the United States as 'world police'orwhateverthestatement above mentioned, then that's fine, I mean.. We do have military bases located within multiple countries around the world.

Ah of course, there are places like in South Dakota that have oil, the reason why they are interested in these other countries though are that when those countries are out of oil. The US can go to its own oil reserves while the other country's resources have become scarce. I guess I didn'tclarifyinmy previous post. Thats why I'm sure the next wars will be over resources, some already are. I wouldn't call the US the world police though.

That does seem very logical.