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I think after tonight, im going to end up just catching this all on video, then making a movie about it. this shit will remain in EO history books forever.

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jimmy posted: (11th Jan 2012, 07:10 am)

I think after tonight, im going to end up just catching this all on video, then making a movie about it. this shit will remain in EO history books forever.

Let's make a commentary as an extra feature. No joke either. We can post by tommorow. k, msn let's get a start on this movie.

MitchV2 posted: (11th Jan 2012, 07:13 am)

jimmy posted: (11th Jan 2012, 07:10 am)

I think after tonight, im going to end up just catching this all on video, then making a movie about it. this shit will remain in EO history books forever.

Let's make a commentary as an extra feature. No joke either. We can post by tommorow.

dude i agree!! do you want me to record video or you? then we can doo commentary tomorrow

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Anything I have linked has been made conspicuous to the owners of said work. Matter of fact, if it wasn't for me getting permission from Arnoud as well as a good deal of his data files, you sure as shit would have an ugly quest system probably built off of .ini files. Give it a rest kid. They said they don't need eoserv.net and their software will be better, let them prove it without eoserv.net. I can tell you right now, they are desperate to redeem their name. I have seen 3 years of Elevations exploiting every single bug he can throw at others who obviously are more successful than he. He posted a screen shot of the one bug he told Sausage about somewhere around the end of the second year of EOSERV(the rest of the bugs he found he uses against all other servers on the SLN in attempt to ruin the community). It has been made apparent the intent of that community. I will continue to do away with links to any site that contains illegal or unsafe content. If you got a problem with that, well, you have got a problem. 

I agree with Apollo here and I see why he is doing it. I wouldn't want any user from here being hacked because of things they have done.

1. They shouldn't have even had the passwords as plain text. (for any reason at all)
2. They claim to have forgotten to take the feature out. (It should have never been put in there in the first place)
3. Everyone knows that Elevations has his bad rep. It will take a long time before many will trust him. This isn't against him in any way but anyone with half a brain would know that not hashing passwords is a bad move. Especially when having a poor site that can be hacked. (Even my old password was made public over that)
4. Hollow should have known better than to not check his code properly and should know about features before uploading. (Tip: Write things down so you don't forget)

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Almost put the topic back until I looked and the entire website just seems to be Elevation's private Sausage ranting zone.

Edit: The screenshot of some random MSN chat between me and Elevations from over a year ago have been removed from the front page of their website now.

We are all human, We all make mistakes, and sometimes we make bad ones, however, that does not mean you should hold a grudge over it.

Because the way I see it from my perception, almost all of the moderators here including Sausage have something against Elevations, whether or not he did such actions. You stepped the boundaries on Elevations at some point in time before you had such evidence of him "stealing passwords" etc. Whatwas the reason for doing that?

Ask yourself this? When did you start holding a "grudge" on Elevations? What was the first step that drawed over your line? what did Elevations do to you personally? and then tell me why you are still holding on to it? Because this is all much like some kind of big war game and you all try to actso very mature about it.

As for the forums rules I think that is left for Sausage to decide.

@Sausage and does your website not look like an EOSource private ranting zone? there is no real reason to act like the police and "investigate" into websites.

But anyways, this just proves that if you ever get a bad rep on eoserv, you will become an outcast and will have a grudge over your ass.

I'm pretty sure everyone started hating elevations when he started attacking every other server to try become #1, taking people's passwords from his own server to use their accounts to troll other servers and eoserv.net, etc. All fairly good reasons to not like someone IMHO.

Sausage posted: (11th Jan 2012, 10:02 am)

I'm pretty sure everyone started hating elevations when he started attacking every other server to try become #1, taking people's passwords from his own server to use their accounts to troll other servers and eoserv.net, etc. All fairly good reasons to not like someone IMHO.

So in other words you're saying you condone yourself and other people hating elevations? IMHO that just doesn't seem like something you should condone, whether or not you have a grudge against somone.

"Hate Groups" are never for a good purpose.

If you hate somone, and they hate you, what does that mean? Simple. War.

And right now we are in the war of "EOSERV" vs "EOSource".

Just waiting until somone decides to be the bigger man in the picture of all of this.

jinga posted: (11th Jan 2012, 10:06 am)

Sausage posted: (11th Jan 2012, 10:02 am)

I'm pretty sure everyone started hating elevations when he started attacking every other server to try become #1, taking people's passwords from his own server to use their accounts to troll other servers and eoserv.net, etc. All fairly good reasons to not like someone IMHO.

So in other words you're saying you condone yourself and other people hating elevations? IMHO that just doesn't seem like something you should condone, whether or not you have a grudge against somone.

"Hate Groups" are never for a good purpose.

If you hate somone, and they hate you, what does that mean? Simple. War.

And right now we are in the war of "EOSERV" vs "EOSource".

Just waiting until somone decides to be the bigger man in the picture of all of this.

You really take this too seriously..

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Mattâ„¢ posted: (11th Jan 2012, 10:22 am)

jinga posted: (11th Jan 2012, 10:06 am)

Sausage posted: (11th Jan 2012, 10:02 am)

I'm pretty sure everyone started hating elevations when he started attacking every other server to try become #1, taking people's passwords from his own server to use their accounts to troll other servers and eoserv.net, etc. All fairly good reasons to not like someone IMHO.

So in other words you're saying you condone yourself and other people hating elevations? IMHO that just doesn't seem like something you should condone, whether or not you have a grudge against somone.

"Hate Groups" are never for a good purpose.

If you hate somone, and they hate you, what does that mean? Simple. War.

And right now we are in the war of "EOSERV" vs "EOSource".

Just waiting until somone decides to be the bigger man in the picture of all of this.

You really take this too seriously..

No, if such events were not happening this thread would not even exist, therefore the only people taking things seriously are the people participating in this on-going-never-ending-mother-fucking war.

jinga posted: (11th Jan 2012, 10:27 am)

Mattâ„¢ posted: (11th Jan 2012, 10:22 am)

jinga posted: (11th Jan 2012, 10:06 am)

Sausage posted: (11th Jan 2012, 10:02 am)

I'm pretty sure everyone started hating elevations when he started attacking every other server to try become #1, taking people's passwords from his own server to use their accounts to troll other servers and eoserv.net, etc. All fairly good reasons to not like someone IMHO.

So in other words you're saying you condone yourself and other people hating elevations? IMHO that just doesn't seem like something you should condone, whether or not you have a grudge against somone.

"Hate Groups" are never for a good purpose.

If you hate somone, and they hate you, what does that mean? Simple. War.

And right now we are in the war of "EOSERV" vs "EOSource".

Just waiting until somone decides to be the bigger man in the picture of all of this.

You really take this too seriously..

No, if such events were not happening this thread would not even exist, therefore the only people taking things seriously are the people participating in this on-going-never-ending-mother-fucking war.

You seem to be about 60% of it.. you shutup and start a domino effect with everyone else.. I dare you to try it

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This isn't a war. You are the only one here that gives a fuck about it. They don't want to be affiliated with eoserv.net because for some reason they think they created something unique. If you will please pay attention, they don't want to go open source because they don't want you to know what they have hidden inside their software. Everything in EOSource has been ripped from eoserv.net, well of course minus the backdoor and removal of secure password storage... they did that.

They need to do their thing on their site, we'll do our thing here, just way better, safer, and source code included.

Apollo posted: (11th Jan 2012, 10:31 am)

This isn't a war. You are the only one here that gives a fuck about it. They don't want to be affiliated with eoserv.net because for some reason they think they created something unique. If you will please pay attention, they don't want to go open source because they don't want you to know what they have hidden inside their software. Everything in EOSource has been ripped from eoserv.net, well of course minus the backdoor and removal of secure password storage... they did that.

They need to do their thing on their site, we'll do our thing here, just way better, safer, and source code included.

Yet it's very clear that "They need to do their thing on their site, we'll do our thing here" law, has not been in action since right now.

Because if that was the case, then we wouldn't know about such backdoors in EOSource, or what is even happening with EOSource, unless this law: "They need to do their thing on their site, we'll do our thing here" was broken (which i might add was obviously broken).

Don't make me look like an outcast aswell. I'm just trying to resolve this obvious conflict otherwise if there wasn't such conflict than there would have been no need to warn users about such "backdoor" in eosource or ban eosource from being advertised here.

But there seems to be some kind of conflict or war, and thats why that has happened.

As for them not releasing open source, that might change I just read a new announcement on EOSource. If such thing did happen then what would you say then about the ban on eosource? Still backdoored? I think you would say that yes.

Because if EOSource goes open source, thats something vodka has not done and probably never will. Would this make you angry apollo? Most likely yes and that draws back to the conclusion that we are all holding a big dirty grudge and are some kind of "elevations" hate group, how intelligent.

> if there wasn't such conflict than there would have been no need to warn users about such "backdoor" in eosource or ban eosource from being advertised here.

What on earth does your imaginary conflict have to do with trying to warn users about the safety of their EOSERV-based servers? Never mind that your entire "war" came about because I posted that announcement, when Elevations decided to, rather than apologize and remove it, start spouting shit about "Sausage Fag jealous".

Elevations or not, if a popular product among the users of a community has a backdoor, they deserve to be told.