MitchV2

Joined: 19th Oct 2011
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Re: PLEASE HELP ME!
kodyt posted: (11th Nov 2011, 08:16 am)
sblord posted: (11th Nov 2011, 07:37 am)
Queen posted: (10th Nov 2011, 07:32 pm)
this thing didn't cause any network failures.. it's that eoserv is sooo terribly fragile and logs every error it sees... well within few minutes it bulked up an errorlog well over 40MB which made the OS crap it's pants freeze up and pass out for the hosting company to reset..
Wow, how unstable was that OS? I've worked on servers that can handle multiple gigabytes of data streams simultaneously without falling
over.Evenmyold486DXcouldhandle a sudden 40MB write, and i'm sure it was operating at 1/50th the performance of a typical modern day VPS. I'd be surprised if EOSERV could pull this off, chances are the server operating system running on the host is just poorly designed, which narrows
itdowntoabout2systems...
Hollow posted: (10th Nov 2011, 05:17 pm)
@p2dr2 That isn't the reason. Who cares if ele can see the passwords? you're stupid anyways if u always use the same passwords. I would just use a different password and if he sees that so be it. I don't care.
That didn't excuse him from being a dickhead. If he could see the unhashed passwords, I wouldn't play his server either.
eternity posted: (11th Nov 2011, 02:45 am)
I'm honestly starting to hate people bringing grammar into these forums and saying "Your grammar is terrible" and shit that I personally do not give a fuck about. The way I see it is that people who say you need to learn prober grammar and stuff on those lines
arethetrueidiotsinsociety.Iobvisously know how to spell, read, and write. Also you can't accomplish life.
Huh? Maybe i'm underestimating my own abilities but I learned the english language by the time
Iturnedfiveyearsold,andperfected it by the time I started high school. Pronunciation, grammar, spelling, phonetics... all of it.
Anyone may see someone like me as someone that put in the effort to learn what I now know. All I see when I see someone
refusetoattemptevenbasiclanguageskills is someone that hasn't put in an effort at all. For the most part, not worth my time to read it. If you want to call me one of the "true idiots in society", by all means do so, but I doubt you'll find anyone willing to agree with that
sentiment.
bone posted: (11th Nov 2011, 12:00 am)
Ty and have a nice day.
I was, until I read this thread in its entirety.
I'm convinced that people here have no technical knowledge. Congratulations if you know how to code, but what difference does it make when you
can'temploybasicsecurity?Onlyafraction of us here can tell the difference between a DoS and a DDoS (here's a hint - it's in the name) and are very quick to point the finger at anyone else when their pseudo-security fails to hold up, often accusing without having any real technical knowledge
ofthepracticethatthey'reaccusingthe other person of.
Even some of our more respected members and some members of the staff here are guilty of making critical errors in their statements. Mostly moderators, but
notallofthem.Iwon'tsingle out the individuals.
Furthermore, the issue gets raised with eoserv.net which (although I think this site should have some role in holding private servers accountable for
theiractions)hasnogroundstotake any action.
I fucking love you SB
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Kesttang

Joined: 18th Oct 2011
Posts: 66
Re: PLEASE HELP ME!
BU is pretty bad. FE is pretty bad too. Edge is also... Eh. I don't know. I'm still here because of this community. Endless Online isn't a horrible game, but the dedication from the staff team is minimum to none. I also see a lot of admins or mods abusing their power on their server. That
doesn't go well if you want to keep your player base. That being said, EO is pretty much done. I don't really get why the heck people still "playing" the game... It's time to move on.
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Colby

Joined: 10th Feb 2011
Posts: 2283
Re: PLEASE HELP ME!
Kesttang posted: (11th Nov 2011, 08:42 am)
BU is pretty bad. FE is pretty bad too. Edge is also... Eh. I don't know. I'm still here because of this community. Endless Online isn't a horrible game, but the dedication from the staff team is minimum to none. I also see a lot of admins or mods abusing their power on their server.
Thatdoesn'tgo well if you want to keep your player base. That being said, EO is pretty much done. I don't really get why the heck people still "playing" the game... It's time to move on.
Endless Online is not that bad, if they actually had frequent updates and active admins maybe they would have at least around 2000. Also they could update there graphics in a while. I really do not want vult to own eo he is a terrible owner.
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iMic
Joined: 26th Jul 2008
Posts: 659
Re: PLEASE HELP ME!
MitchV2 posted: (11th Nov 2011, 08:13 am)
He couldnt see the passwords btw :o, people left for a different reason. Anyways, well-stated. Amen +1
It's alright, I used the FE scenario as an example. If any other server did the same i'd avoid associating with them too.
kodyt posted: (11th Nov 2011, 08:16 am)
I fucking love you SB
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kodyt

Joined: 6th Apr 2009
Posts: 2271
Re: PLEASE HELP ME!
sblord posted: (11th Nov 2011, 03:46 pm)
MitchV2 posted: (11th Nov 2011, 08:13 am)
He couldnt see the passwords btw :o, people left for a different reason. Anyways, well-stated. Amen +1
It's alright, I used the FE scenario as an example. If any other server did the same i'd avoid associating with them too.
kodyt posted: (11th Nov 2011, 08:16 am)
I fucking love you SB
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Re: PLEASE HELP ME!
MitchV2 posted: (11th Nov 2011, 08:13 am)
sblord posted: (11th Nov 2011, 07:37 am)
Queen posted: (10th Nov 2011, 07:32 pm)
this thing didn't cause any network failures.. it's that eoserv is sooo terribly fragile and logs every error it sees... well within few minutes it bulked up an errorlog well over 40MB which made the OS crap it's pants freeze up and pass out for the hosting company to reset..
Wow, how unstable was that OS? I've worked on servers that can handle multiple gigabytes of data streams simultaneously without falling over.
Evenmyold486DXcould handle a sudden 40MB write, and i'm sure it was operating at 1/50th the performance of a typical modern day VPS. I'd be surprised if EOSERV could pull this off, chances are the server operating system running on the host is just poorly designed, which narrows it
downtoabout2systems...
Hollow posted: (10th Nov 2011, 05:17 pm)
@p2dr2 That isn't the reason. Who cares if ele can see the passwords? you're stupid anyways if u always use the same passwords. I would just use a different password and if he sees that so be it. I don't care.
That didn't excuse him from being a dickhead. If he could see the unhashed passwords, I wouldn't play his server either.
eternity posted: (11th Nov 2011, 02:45 am)
I'm honestly starting to hate people bringing grammar into these forums and saying "Your grammar is terrible" and shit that I personally do not give a fuck about. The way I see it is that people who say you need to learn prober grammar and stuff on those lines are the
trueidiotsinsociety.Iobvisously know how to spell, read, and write. Also you can't accomplish life.
Huh? Maybe i'm underestimating my own abilities but I learned the english language by the time I
turnedfiveyearsold,and perfected it by the time I started high school. Pronunciation, grammar, spelling, phonetics... all of it.
Anyone may see someone like me as someone that put in the effort to learn what I now know. All I see when I see someone refuse to
attemptevenbasiclanguageskills is someone that hasn't put in an effort at all. For the most part, not worth my time to read it. If you want to call me one of the "true idiots in society", by all means do so, but I doubt you'll find anyone willing to agree with that sentiment.
bone posted: (11th Nov 2011, 12:00 am)
Ty and have a nice day.
I was, until I read this thread in its entirety.
I'm convinced that people here have no technical knowledge. Congratulations if you know how to code, but what difference does it make when you can't employ
basicsecurity?Onlyafraction of us here can tell the difference between a DoS and a DDoS (here's a hint - it's in the name) and are very quick to point the finger at anyone else when their pseudo-security fails to hold up, often accusing without having any real technical knowledge of the
practicethatthey'reaccusingthe other person of.
Even some of our more respected members and some members of the staff here are guilty of making critical errors in their statements. Mostly moderators, but not all
ofthem.Iwon'tsingle out the individuals.
Furthermore, the issue gets raised with eoserv.net which (although I think this site should have some role in holding private servers accountable for their actions)hasnogroundsto
take any action.
He couldnt see the passwords btw :o, people left for a different reason. Anyways, well-stated. Amen +1
He can see the passwords <_<
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Cirras

Joined: 11th Mar 2011
Posts: 1221
Re: PLEASE HELP ME!
MitchV2 posted: (11th Nov 2011, 01:23 am)
bone posted: (11th Nov 2011, 12:00 am)
@Hollow, go fuck yourself dude cause kylethepro is a gay.. too slander bu or me is complete bullshit, I have never said shit about your shitty rev that you try to take full credit for, knowing full well you dont deserve it, even though its shit.
Next, i have been DDoS attacked by everyone and their dog, i don't whine on here or anywhere else, its apart of the game, so stuff that aspect of your arguement right up your ass.
Finally, most of your inafantile morons on these forums give opinions on everything, yet know shit about anything, or have yet to create anything here worth even taking a second look at, wich makes you look so pathetic on these forums and in real life, i suppose you come check
every5minutestoseeif you have responses to your know nothing suggestions, simply pathetic.
Ty and have a nice day.
Well bu is shit, the maps are unorganized, and most of the pixels are just shit and are hard on the eyes. You have like two good artists.. But that can only take a server so far. Hollows rev isn't shit, and why shouldn't he take credit for it when he made it? Your server is based off
eotoo..stupid.And you always are whine when you get ddosed.. Don't say you don't.. Plus Hollow is a moderator, and you will not win lol. Alas.. you say people people have posts and contributions that aren't worth looking at, Then why are you here? Lame of you too make yourself look like
afool..onceagain.
p.s. You should study up on your spelling. Haveanicedaybro, try not to cry.
Now you guys can get on with the thread.
Of course, this is the very next post after me saying we should stop being immature and going off-topic to attack people and servers..
I won't go far in arguing with you, I think it's probably pointless. Regardless of your opinion, clearly we're doing something right if we've had a loyal player base for this long. Come back when you've done the same.
P.S: The old "Hurrr durr you dun spell rite" comeback is horribly overdone.
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MitchV2

Joined: 19th Oct 2011
Posts: 1285
Re: PLEASE HELP ME!
Cirras posted: (12th Nov 2011, 01:56 am)
MitchV2 posted: (11th Nov 2011, 01:23 am)
bone posted: (11th Nov 2011, 12:00 am)
@Hollow, go fuck yourself dude cause kylethepro is a gay.. too slander bu or me is complete bullshit, I have never said shit about your shitty rev that you try to take full credit for, knowing full well you dont deserve it, even though its shit.
Next, i have been DDoS attacked by everyone and their dog, i don't whine on here or anywhere else, its apart of the game, so stuff that aspect of your arguement right up your ass.
Finally, most of your inafantile morons on these forums give opinions on everything, yet know shit about anything, or have yet to create anything here worth even taking a second look at, wich makes you look so pathetic on these forums and in real life, i suppose you come
checkevery5minutestoseeif you have responses to your know nothing suggestions, simply pathetic.
Ty and have a nice day.
Well bu is shit, the maps are unorganized, and most of the pixels are just shit and are hard on the eyes. You have like two good artists.. But that can only take a server so far. Hollows rev isn't shit, and why shouldn't he take credit for it when he made it? Your server is based
offeotoo..stupid.And you always are whine when you get ddosed.. Don't say you don't.. Plus Hollow is a moderator, and you will not win lol. Alas.. you say people people have posts and contributions that aren't worth looking at, Then why are you here? Lame of you too make yourself look
likeafool..onceagain.
p.s. You should study up on your spelling. Haveanicedaybro, try not to cry.
Now you guys can get on with the thread.
Of course, this is the very next post after me saying we should stop being immature and going off-topic to attack people and servers..
I won't go far in arguing with you, I think it's probably pointless. Regardless of your opinion, clearly we're doing something right if we've had a loyal player base for this long. Come back when you've done the same.
P.S: The old "Hurrr durr you dun spell rite" comeback is horribly overdone.
Lol, he insulted my friend, Hollow! Lol, anyways I don't want to argue XD I agree that we shouldn't argue, but yeah.. at least educate the zombie with his little cookie a little..XD Im not associated with any servers :P
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Japanese

Joined: 9th Sep 2011
Posts: 770
Re: PLEASE HELP ME!
lool this is makin me laugh.. who cares its just a private server, its not like it means anything... but, if queens story checks out, p2 isGUILTY!!
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kodyt

Joined: 6th Apr 2009
Posts: 2271
Re: PLEASE HELP ME!
We all have our own opinions, its the internet lernnot2care.
In my opinion most of you are flaming piles of dog shit...u I mean come on your wasting skill an talent on a eo emulator. For fucks sake, on top of
thatourcommunity here is so divide on what server is l337 that we can't go 5 topics with out a "I HATE DIS SRVER!" or "FUK DIS GUY" post. For real, I got +10 rep an I do nothing but rage an call most of if not all of you fucking morons when ever I do log on. This place is worse then
thefuckingrakahashahsahahafags, anyways thats just my opinion... an like I said learn not to give a fuck its the internet.
P.S. Get over your selfs most of you have no idea how to even make your own EO Emulator, I don't mean "Hey guise I add c0dez an pixles its mine now" I mean
codingafucking server emulator its self. I know some of you can, an those people are the ones who I have noticed don't go /rage or /baw on a post.
P.S.S
Lul I'm going back to Redit/tumblr/4chan, you guys wont have to read my tl:dr; bitch fest post for another month or so enjoy your peace. <3's to all of you even the cockmongers.
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MitchV2

Joined: 19th Oct 2011
Posts: 1285
Re: PLEASE HELP ME!
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Re: PLEASE HELP ME!
@bone the ppl that actually did support the forum by publishing art got ripped of by BU en FE when not getting credit and the ppl who actually did make something and ask credit for it are being told ther work is shit while theye actually made it themself and not stole it from others? wow bad
things getting worse
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Flazex

Joined: 10th Mar 2011
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Re: PLEASE HELP ME!
Kestang. You say the servers suck. You're stating, your opinion. Many people play the servers for the community, items, and sometimes the gameplay. BU is full of trolls. FE isn't really bad when you get down to it. You just call it bad just because of the names you call Ele. Lastly EE is pretty
much a day care center. You can't even say some of the dumbests things without getting muted. Also, no offense. I'm stating my opinon. ---
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iMic
Joined: 26th Jul 2008
Posts: 659
Re: PLEASE HELP ME!
"Opinion" is the worst fucking concept in the history of the english language.
I'm going to go ahead and say the servers are shit with a single hard fact behind it - nobody has even the slightest clue how to run one of these things.
Fallen Evolution and Elevations can tell me time and time again that they're a successful game entirely spearheaded by Elevations Productions, which last I checked was not a registered business nor has it ever turned a consistent profit from its primary business model, turning to hundreds of
in-your-face advertisements and donations to raise the pittance required to keep that train wreck on the rails. Get the fuck over it, even if FE was completely recoded from scratch, client and server, with rewritten maps and redesigned graphics at this stage, their reputation will always tie them
to Endless Online and it will always tie them to EOSERV.
The entire thing is a perfect example of how you shouldn't run your startup business.
Endless Edge is a fine server in the sense that it works consistently and seems to be managed relatively well. It doesn't try to be innovative or radical, but the economy is sound, the game plays like the original without the flaws and it hasn't fluctuated in pace over time. However, I can't
call this game successful either because it's only ever been a "for fun" clone of the original Endless Online game. Perhaps that's what they were aiming for and are perfectly content with that title.
The fact of the matter is some servers will be better than others compared to other Endless Online private servers. However compared to the entire game industry in general, these are boring as bat shit. There's any other magnitude of games out there and games soon
to be released that will continue to erode at our already thin market share. As a matter of fact, i'll go as far as to say that we will never attract any large number of new players to our platform due to the advantages of our competition, and the players that we do currently have on our servers
are the remaining few leftovers of players that are already familiar with Endless Online.
As such, we're running on borrowed time. Every last one of us.
I won't accept "great new features" as incentive either. I don't give a shit if a server supposedly has fishing, it's still pressing the fucking control key over and over. Nor will I accept "a great community" as incentive to play a server. I have played quite a few servers, undercover when I
was on staff here to assess the quality of each, and I have yet to run into any server that has a great, let alone a stable, community. It's nothing like other games where players can get to know each other and have fun in competition - usually you just end up sitting around talking shit outside
Aeven town square.
So i'm going to say it now, to the EOSERV community, that I am sick and tired of server and player disputes, period.
To the server owners, you have a lot of work to do and a lot of mess to clean up pushing forward, who stole what graphics and who said what should be your very lowest priority. All of the graphics are stolen per se, it's a server emulator, a clone of Endless Online and as much as
you want to tell us it isn't, it simply is, if not in how it looks, look at how it works, how the characters move, the way you interact and attack. All of it matches. Don't bite the hand that feeds you either, the players are your livelihood, the more you drive them away the less popular your
server will become. Show some customer service when dealing with them and exert polite authority in dealing with the difficult ones.
Also, quit calling DDoS whenever anything remotely difficult happens. Slight spike in the server load? Server running slowly? Down for maintenance? Gee, that must be a DDoS. No. Fuck off. Also, quit blaming everyone else for a problem. The number of times i've seen players come running back to
this forum going "X admin said I was attacking them but I haven't done anything" is astonishing. Get your facts straight and build up some hard evidence before accusing anyone of anything.
At the moment the only community and authority i'm seeing on private servers is akin to the former Soviet Union.
Yet I somehow doubt that is going to change.
Finally, looking back over my post, I believe legally that does check out. I've stated my case from an outside perspective, this is how I see it and most importantly why I see it that way. The very last lesson is claiming you are going to take legal action against someone for
speaking out, or taking your graphics or anything of that sort is an empty threat. None of this would hold up in a court of law and you would be doing nothing other than wasting the judge's time. Not to mention the extortionate court fees when it inevitably backfires.
Discuss.
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MitchV2

Joined: 19th Oct 2011
Posts: 1285
Re: PLEASE HELP ME!
sblord posted: (13th Nov 2011, 02:47 am)
"Opinion" is the worst fucking concept in the history of the english language.
I'm going to go ahead and say the servers are shit with a single hard fact behind it - nobody has even the slightest clue how to run one of these things.
Fallen Evolution and Elevations can tell me time and time again that they're a successful game entirely spearheaded by Elevations Productions, which last I checked was not a registered business nor has it ever turned a consistent profit from its primary business model, turning to hundreds
ofin-your-face advertisements and donations to raise the pittance required to keep that train wreck on the rails. Get the fuck over it, even if FE was completely recoded from scratch, client and server, with rewritten maps and redesigned graphics at this stage, their reputation will always tie
themto Endless Online and it will always tie them to EOSERV.
The entire thing is a perfect example of how you shouldn't run your startup business.
Endless Edge is a fine server in the sense that it works consistently and seems to be managed relatively well. It doesn't try to be innovative or radical, but the economy is sound, the game plays like the original without the flaws and it hasn't fluctuated in pace over time. However, I
can'tcall this game successful either because it's only ever been a "for fun" clone of the original Endless Online game. Perhaps that's what they were aiming for and are perfectly content with that title.
The fact of the matter is some servers will be better than others compared to other Endless Online private servers. However compared to the entire game industry in general, these are boring as bat shit. There's any other magnitude of games out there and games
soonto be released that will continue to erode at our already thin market share. As a matter of fact, i'll go as far as to say that we will never attract any large number of new players to our platform due to the advantages of our competition, and the players that we do currently have on our
serversare the remaining few leftovers of players that are already familiar with Endless Online.
As such, we're running on borrowed time. Every last one of us.
I won't accept "great new features" as incentive either. I don't give a shit if a server supposedly has fishing, it's still pressing the fucking control key over and over. Nor will I accept "a great community" as incentive to play a server. I have played quite a few servers, undercover when
Iwas on staff here to assess the quality of each, and I have yet to run into any server that has a great, let alone a stable, community. It's nothing like other games where players can get to know each other and have fun in competition - usually you just end up sitting around talking shit
outsideAeven town square.
So i'm going to say it now, to the EOSERV community, that I am sick and tired of server and player disputes, period.
To the server owners, you have a lot of work to do and a lot of mess to clean up pushing forward, who stole what graphics and who said what should be your very lowest priority. All of the graphics are stolen per se, it's a server emulator, a clone of Endless Online and as much
asyou want to tell us it isn't, it simply is, if not in how it looks, look at how it works, how the characters move, the way you interact and attack. All of it matches. Don't bite the hand that feeds you either, the players are your livelihood, the more you drive them away the less popular
yourserver will become. Show some customer service when dealing with them and exert polite authority in dealing with the difficult ones.
Also, quit calling DDoS whenever anything remotely difficult happens. Slight spike in the server load? Server running slowly? Down for maintenance? Gee, that must be a DDoS. No. Fuck off. Also, quit blaming everyone else for a problem. The number of times i've seen players come running back
tothis forum going "X admin said I was attacking them but I haven't done anything" is astonishing. Get your facts straight and build up some hard evidence before accusing anyone of anything.
At the moment the only community and authority i'm seeing on private servers is akin to the former Soviet Union.
Yet I somehow doubt that is going to change.
Finally, looking back over my post, I believe legally that does check out. I've stated my case from an outside perspective, this is how I see it and most importantly why I see it that way. The very last lesson is claiming you are going to take legal action against someone
forspeaking out, or taking your graphics or anything of that sort is an empty threat. None of this would hold up in a court of law and you would be doing nothing other than wasting the judge's time. Not to mention the extortionate court fees when it inevitably backfires.
Discuss.
I have to agree with you here on every point you made. Every server will always have that connection that leads back here, and all of the servers look exactly the same as endless online in game type, as you stated movement, controls, and such. I think if anyone sued anyone for stealing something
from another server, the people of the court would be laughing at the ridicule of it. The game that I have seen go farthest, perhaps not anymore.. lol. But graphics wise, would be TFG. At the moment I'm not working on any server due to time management, and I don't think I will be returning to do
so. All the servers argue to one another, yet they could all work together to make each of their projects better, and in addition, not have the unnecessary shit that they post about one another. Most of the server owners are not showing a good example to there community by doing this, so I don't
see how they can say come to our server due to a great community. Everything on here is related to Endless Online and is pretty much stolen, with slight changes, yet people continue to argue with one another. The DDOS is also bs and annoying, every time something goes wrong with a server and its
down.. People always complain and blame it on Ddos.. I do not understand why they can't shut up about it, and just notice that servers can't stay online forever. I think everyone needs to read your post, and figure their shit out. Lol.
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