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Why does everyone need to make things so complicated? Why does it seem like everyone thrives on arguing? Is it because of our differences, our disagreements, our hate for others? What the hell is it.. People are just so stubborn these days, and these bans and arguments wouldn't be happening, if everyone would just not complicate everything so much too the point of where it turns into a huge argument. Speaking for myself also, everyone arguing about minor things, needs to chill out, and seriously think about what their doing and saying or this nonsense will just continue. -.-

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Short and simple: ego's and immaturity.  That will never change about the EO community.

Saintdraco posted: (30th Mar 2011 12:39 pm)

Short and simple: ego's and immaturity.  That will never change about the EO community.

To say that the community will not change is a little naive . I'm not saying your naive, but I'm just saying that anything can change, and that's why there is moderators here to help and keep everything in order and get rid of people doing more harm than help for this community. Of course no matter what there will be immature people but it's how you deal with them that matters. If their doing something wrong, you tell them. If their being complete jackasses, do what you wish, as long as the community stays intact, and their is some form of morality, eoserv will remain and progress with time. That's about all I have too say to you.

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shayne posted: (30th Mar 2011 12:53 pm)

Saintdraco posted: (30th Mar 2011 12:39 pm)

Short and simple: ego's and immaturity.  That will never change about the EO community.

To say that the community will not change is a little naive . I'm not saying your naive, but I'm just saying that anything can change, and that's why there is moderators here to help and keep everything in order and get rid of people doing more harm than help for this community. Of course no matterwhat there will be immature people but it's how you deal with them that matters. If their doing something wrong, you tell them. If their being complete jackasses, do what you wish, as long as the community stays intact, and their is some form of morality, eoserv will remain and progress with time.That's about all I have too say to you.

EO has been this way for years.  Literally.  It never changes - everyone has always thrived on anger and arguments and confrontations - who can one-up the other person and so on and so forth.  The list of bullshit goes on.  People are still stuck in this mindset and mind you half of the ones who still are, are in their early 20's now (or 19-25 range), and that honestly baffles my mind. (Which is why I mentioned ego's and immaturity)

I agree with you on all points, but nobody will listen.  It's been said many times and I've honestly felt like writing a nice deep post about it but I just never seen a point with the way the current community has been.  There is still quite a few nice people on here but the way I see it, yeah, sure, some people are helpful but in the end this just weeds out the bad apples you might say (but also makes some of the really nicer people go away which = kinda bad)  But who knows, they may return if something changed.  Unlikely though.

I could probably write a book about things but I'm half awake and I doubt anyone would give a damn about a tl;dr so I'll shut up :P

Saintdraco posted: (30th Mar 2011 01:03 pm)

shayne posted: (30th Mar 2011 12:53 pm)

Saintdraco posted: (30th Mar 2011 12:39 pm)

Short and simple: ego's and immaturity.  That will never change about the EO community.

To say that the community will not change is a little naive . I'm not saying your naive, but I'm just saying that anything can change, and that's why there is moderators here to help and keep everything in order and get rid of people doing more harm than help for this community. Of course nomatterwhat there will be immature people but it's how you deal with them that matters. If their doing something wrong, you tell them. If their being complete jackasses, do what you wish, as long as the community stays intact, and their is some form of morality, eoserv will remain and progress withtime.That's about all I have too say to you.

EO has been this way for years.  Literally.  It never changes - everyone has always thrived on anger and arguments and confrontations - who can one-up the other person and so on and so forth.  The list of bullshit goes on.  People are still stuck in this mindset and mind youhalf of the ones who still are, are in their early 20's now (or 19-25 range), and that honestly baffles my mind. (Which is why I mentioned ego's and immaturity)

I agree with you on all points, but nobody will listen.  It's been said many times and I've honestly felt like writing a nice deep post about it but I just never seen a point with the way the current community has been.  There is still quite a few nice people on here but the way I seeit, yeah, sure, some people are helpful but in the end this just weeds out the bad apples you might say (but also makes some of the really nicer people go away which = kinda bad)  But who knows, they may return if something changed.  Unlikely though.

I could probably write a book about things but I'm half awake and I doubt anyone would give a damn about a tl;dr so I'll shut up :P

I feel the exact same way, but I'm always up for a challenge ;)

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Saintdraco posted: (30th Mar 2011 01:03 pm)

shayne posted: (30th Mar 2011 12:53 pm)

Saintdraco posted: (30th Mar 2011 12:39 pm)

Short and simple: ego's and immaturity.  That will never change about the EO community.

To say that the community will not change is a little naive . I'm not saying your naive, but I'm just saying that anything can change, and that's why there is moderators here to help and keep everything in order and get rid of people doing more harm than help for this community. Of course nomatterwhat there will be immature people but it's how you deal with them that matters. If their doing something wrong, you tell them. If their being complete jackasses, do what you wish, as long as the community stays intact, and their is some form of morality, eoserv will remain and progress withtime.That's about all I have too say to you.

EO has been this way for years.  Literally.  It never changes - everyone has always thrived on anger and arguments and confrontations - who can one-up the other person and so on and so forth.  The list of bullshit goes on.  People are still stuck in this mindset and mind youhalf of the ones who still are, are in their early 20's now (or 19-25 range), and that honestly baffles my mind. (Which is why I mentioned ego's and immaturity)

I agree with you on all points, but nobody will listen.  It's been said many times and I've honestly felt like writing a nice deep post about it but I just never seen a point with the way the current community has been.  There is still quite a few nice people on here but the way I seeit, yeah, sure, some people are helpful but in the end this just weeds out the bad apples you might say (but also makes some of the really nicer people go away which = kinda bad)  But who knows, they may return if something changed.  Unlikely though.

I could probably write a book about things but I'm half awake and I doubt anyone would give a damn about a tl;dr so I'll shut up :P

If you think that just EO community is like this, then you know so little... Go roam bigger forums and you will see, they aren't any better. For example WoW europe forums is full of "Geeks" who do think they are the best, because they know some ubah strategies on WoW or for example, go to see k2 forums, thats is full of 20 year old guys/girls who whine about everything what happens on the world. And they are insulting others etc.

It isn't just EO community, lets say that overall everyone is little bit egoish and selfish on the Internet.

But about you, you say that everyone here is bit immature and egoish, well I have to agree, but don't you think you are little bit egoish, if you think that way... "I do not care about EO, still I roam these forums and tell people how egoish and immature they are."

I do not mean to insult you, I respect you, as you seem to be one of the wisest peeps here.

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sephiroth posted: (30th Mar 2011 01:32 pm)

Saintdraco posted: (30th Mar 2011 01:03 pm)

shayne posted: (30th Mar 2011 12:53 pm)

Saintdraco posted: (30th Mar 2011 12:39 pm)

Short and simple: ego's and immaturity.  That will never change about the EO community.

To say that the community will not change is a little naive . I'm not saying your naive, but I'm just saying that anything can change, and that's why there is moderators here to help and keep everything in order and get rid of people doing more harm than help for this community. Of coursenomatterwhat there will be immature people but it's how you deal with them that matters. If their doing something wrong, you tell them. If their being complete jackasses, do what you wish, as long as the community stays intact, and their is some form of morality, eoserv will remain and progresswithtime.That's about all I have too say to you.

EO has been this way for years.  Literally.  It never changes - everyone has always thrived on anger and arguments and confrontations - who can one-up the other person and so on and so forth.  The list of bullshit goes on.  People are still stuck in this mindset and mindyouhalf of the ones who still are, are in their early 20's now (or 19-25 range), and that honestly baffles my mind. (Which is why I mentioned ego's and immaturity)

I agree with you on all points, but nobody will listen.  It's been said many times and I've honestly felt like writing a nice deep post about it but I just never seen a point with the way the current community has been.  There is still quite a few nice people on here but the way Iseeit, yeah, sure, some people are helpful but in the end this just weeds out the bad apples you might say (but also makes some of the really nicer people go away which = kinda bad)  But who knows, they may return if something changed.  Unlikely though.

I could probably write a book about things but I'm half awake and I doubt anyone would give a damn about a tl;dr so I'll shut up :P

If you think that just EO community is like this, then you know so little... Go roam bigger forums and you will see, they aren't any better. For example WoW europe forums is full of "Geeks" who do think they are the best, because they know some ubah strategies on WoW or for example, go to see k2forums, thats is full of 20 year old guys/girls who whine about everything what happens on the world. And they are insulting others etc.

It isn't just EO community, lets say that overall everyone is little bit egoish and selfish on the Internet.

But about you, you say that everyone here is bit immature and egoish, well I have to agree, but don't you think you are little bit egoish, if you think that way... "I do not care about EO, still I roam these forums and tell people how egoish and immature they are."

I do not mean to insult you, I respect you, as you seem to be one of the wisest peeps here.

Well, I never said this forums was the only one like it but I never even would compare it to a much bigger community.  This is a very small community.  You'd think it'd be easier to be more friendly with one another because literally, we're all that is left of EO. (besides the trolls of rakuhana)  Nobody is really on the same page here, I mean how hard is it for basically 10-20 active people on these forums to get a long?  Yes everyone has their own personalities and such but we're all wanting the same thing.  It shouldn't be that hard at all.

I have no need for an ego filled persona online and neither should anyone else because we're all unique in our own ways and have different things to offer this community.  And also I never said I didn't care about EO else I would not be here at the moment.  No offense taken as well, it'd be nice to see a discussion without arguing with eachother aimlessly for once.  Some of these things just need to be said by someone, anyone.

Look guys I'm sorry okay I have a shit ton of problems and I'm not writing everything on here for the public to see but let's just say I'm one of those complications. No, I'm not looking for sympathy, not from any of you, otherwise I would list my problems and have you guys castrate my excuses.I'm not excusing myself either, just letting you all know.

And I'm leaving too, not because I was banned or that I'm unwelcome, I just got a hard kick in the face from something called reality. I no longer find anything beneficial here, that's worth struggling for.

Note, this community, even if small / egotistical / immature, makes up for the most part around here. Better learn to accept that, otherwise you're just so few. That's my leaving gift.

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Klutz posted: (30th Mar 2011 01:57 pm)

Look guys I'm sorry okay I have a shit ton of problems and I'm not writing everything on here for the public to see but let's just say I'm one of those complications. No, I'm not looking for sympathy, not from any of you, otherwise I would list my problems and have you guyscastratemyexcuses.I'mnot excusing myself either, just letting you all know.

And I'm leaving too, not because I was banned or that I'm unwelcome, I just got a hard kick in the face from something called reality. I no longer find anything beneficial here, that's worth struggling for.

Note, this community, even if small / egotistical / immature, makes up for the most part around here. Better learn to accept that, otherwise you're just so few. That's my leaving gift.

Shit happens, everyone has problems - it's how you decide to take on those problems and the priorities you set for yourself that makes you, well you.  Best of luck though.

I won't accept something that honestly can get better and change for the better also, that's like forever having a plain pizza with no toppings - when you're always given the option for more toppings for free.  Unless you of course enjoy a shitty pizza.  Makes no sense to me to be honest.

I wish all the people that make endless and this forum great and worth my time would stop leaving! I get it if you don't feel you want to be here anymore, but do you guys even realize how important you all are here? This forum and endless are still here partly because of you guys.  You all have significance here mainly directing this too Sblord, Klutz, and desmond Taylor, because these are the few that seem to want to leave for their own reasons, which is fine. I'm not trying to convince you to stay or anything, I'm just saying you guys play a huge role in this  community, maybe even bigger than you originally thought.

Not trying to sound all serious about a game, but I do enjoy talking to, and helping the people on this forum, and I would hate to see things spiral downwards, and end like this.

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Saintdraco posted: (30th Mar 2011 02:05 pm)

Klutz posted: (30th Mar 2011 01:57 pm)

Look guys I'm sorry okay I have a shit ton of problems and I'm not writing everything on here for the public to see but let's just say I'm one of those complications. No, I'm not looking for sympathy, not from any of you, otherwise I would list my problems and have youguyscastratemyexcuses.I'mnot excusing myself either, just letting you all know.

And I'm leaving too, not because I was banned or that I'm unwelcome, I just got a hard kick in the face from something called reality. I no longer find anything beneficial here, that's worth struggling for.

Note, this community, even if small / egotistical / immature, makes up for the most part around here. Better learn to accept that, otherwise you're just so few. That's my leaving gift.

Shit happens, everyone has problems - it's how you decide to take on those problems and the priorities you set for yourself that makes you, well you.  Best of luck though.

I won't accept something that honestly can get better and change for the better also, that's like forever having a plain pizza with no toppings - when you're always given the option for more toppings for free.  Unless you of course enjoy a shitty pizza.  Makes no sense to me to behonest.

Right okay, your pizza analogy just doesn't really apply the way you want it to, but I get what you're trying to say when I think about it. Only problem is, you would be lucky enough to find a single person that even cares enough to change their attitude for a bunch of strangers, but if you think everyone on here with abnormal posting tendancies could change for the sake of keeping a dead forum dead.. err forgot what I was getting at.. oh yeah. Apply for moderatorship and make a difference then. Your optimism will proceed you.

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Klutz posted: (30th Mar 2011 02:22 pm)

Saintdraco posted: (30th Mar 2011 02:05 pm)

Klutz posted: (30th Mar 2011 01:57 pm)

Look guys I'm sorry okay I have a shit ton of problems and I'm not writing everything on here for the public to see but let's just say I'm one of those complications. No, I'm not looking for sympathy, not from any of you, otherwise I would list myproblemsandhaveyouguyscastratemyexcuses.I'mnotexcusing myself either, just letting you all know.

And I'm leaving too, not because I was banned or that I'm unwelcome, I just got a hard kick in the face from something called reality. I no longer find anything beneficial here, that's worth struggling for.

Note, this community, even if small / egotistical / immature, makes up for the most part around here. Better learn to accept that, otherwise you're just so few. That's my leaving gift.

Shit happens, everyone has problems - it's how you decide to take on those problems and the priorities you set for yourself that makes you, well you.  Best of luck though.

I won't accept something that honestly can get better and change for the better also, that's like forever having a plain pizza with no toppings - when you're always given the option for more toppings for free.  Unless you of course enjoy a shitty pizza.  Makes nosensetometobehonest.

Right okay, your pizza analogy just doesn't really apply the way you want it to, but I get what you're trying to say when I think about it. Only problem is, you would be lucky enough to find a single person that even cares enough to change their attitude for a bunch of strangers,butifyouthinkeveryone on here with abnormal posting tendancies could change for the sake of keeping a dead forum dead.. err forgot what I was getting at.. oh yeah. Apply for moderatorship and make a difference then. Your optimism will proceed you.

Yeah I kind of fail with analogies whilst not having much sleep.  It's not so much as changing for a bunch of strangers but changing at least some of our attitudes for the sake of EOserv, EO, the "dead" forum, and as well as maybe some friendships and learning experiences that could/maybehad on here.  And who knows, maybe some FUN for once?

Anyone can change it's just up to them to decide if they want to or not.  If change happens, who knows what could come about with the EOserv software or the community that is left or even what other greater things we all as a group are capable of.  You never really knowuntilyoutry. And if not well, nothing else really to be said.

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What I would like to say is that I will try to be different but I can't promise and I will just get frustrated and act like a douchebag again.
Forget it, I've offered my help, nobody really needs it, I act like a dick all the time and if I stay, I'm just wasting time and pissing people off.
If anybody thinks any different please speak up, because I'm making my final decisions, and having a rather bad day.

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Klutz posted: (30th Mar 2011 02:40 pm)

What I would like to say is that I will try to be different but I can't promise and I will just get frustrated and act like a douchebag again.
Forget it, I've offered my help, nobody really needs it, I act like a dick all the time and if I stay, I'm just wasting time and pissing people off.
If anybody thinks any different please speak up, because I'm making my final decisions, and having a rather bad day.

Logon tomorrow, when your having a better day ;)

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I've said the whole time your important here. Your not usually a dick and (never have been to me), and are one of the most helpful people here. Dude look at your post total. Think about how much you have helped others out of all those posts(alot!). Isn't that enough reason for you to stay?Itwould be a shame to see one of this forums best attributes leave and that is why I think you should reconsider your decision. I don't see why you think your pissing me or anyone else off. Just because some people are getting a little mad over a silly dispute and they disagree with you is not areason for you to leave. What surprises me about you is your willingness to help others, and your honesty. Two great attributes to have. Still think your an ass whole? Let me be the first here to tell you your not.

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