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Post #63373 Irony.

I suppose it's somewhat ironic that it's one of the former EOHax administrators that's become an advocate for security, progress and community spirit. Not particularly because I wanted to, considering my priority was always in trawling these forums and waiting to see what new server projects would come up with and offering advice from time to time. No, the big reason i've been pushing for some kind of truce in recent threads is because it's what the EOSERV community and its server base has come to.


The problem seems to lie in the fact that certain individuals are too fucking stupid to understand that the idea of running a private server is for enjoyment. Now we have servers getting the shit kicked out of them, servers kicking the shit out of each other, and best of all, servers like FE throwing a fucking tantrum and splitting off from EOSERV because they don't like the way things are done around here. Nothing to do with EOSERV anymore. Moderators are corrupt. Write your own game software from scratch then (and I mean from scratch, unless you want to infringe on our license) or deal with it.


I'm not here to offer anyone advice. I'm not here to make accusations as to who is responsible. I'm here to inform certain individuals, and you know who you are, that they and only they are responsible for fucking this up for the rest of us. Single handedly, those who:

- Called war against (other) servers

- Denied service to or exploited (other) servers

- Manipulated the software for malicious intent (such as password harvesting)

- Acted in unethical (dirty/unfair) ways

- Overreacted to basic disputes

- Blatantly stole the work of your peers

- Spammed the shit out of these forums to slander individuals or groups

Have essentially taken the EOSERV project from a relatively promising concept to a hollow shell of its former self. Well done folks. I only take comfort in knowing that your kind is mostly restricted to the internet, probably because keyboard warriors are relegated to pieces of shit in the real world.

I personally no longer see any need for myself or any other of the staff to contribute to this. Whether they choose to or not is entirely up to them, and i'm sure some other staff will continue to offer their services to individuals looking to start their own servers. However, I will no longer offer anything to EOSERV

Over the past couple of years i've provided ideas and concepts to the community on how to promote their servers. I've written up entire documents on the benefits of having a new server and client package written. I've attempted to settle disputes between servers and their staff. I've offered my services to a number of servers, such as EOServ Legacy and offered some work to Endless Edge, none of which eventuated. All of this culminates in the conclusion that some things never change.

It only makes sense now that some of our biggest name servers are jumping off at a rapid rate and the rate at which new servers are being introduced is slowing. It makes sense that the activity within forums such as the lounge is slowing to a crawl. It even makes sense that EOSERV development is all but dead, save for a few individuals adding some code here and there. If they weren't so persistent, i'm adamant that this project would have been shut down or abandoned.

What's unfortunate is that it's now the legitimate users that have to suffer its slow and painful demise. Can't say the writing hasn't been on the wall for a very long time though.


The irony then? That those of us that stood by EOSERV for the long run, the supporters and server operators that held out optimism, now have the task of separating themselves from it to survive. No matter how you look at it, that's a community in serious peril.

Oh well. Enjoy.

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Post #63378 Re: Irony.


I agree with this. But there are too many people like that in this world that can't be dealt with, Unfortantly.  

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Post #63382 Re: Irony.

SB, I agree with mostly everything you said.


BUT, for someone "offering help" to me, you couldn't even create a forum account and talk to us, or even open an opportunity to be introduced to our team. Maybe your priorities were in the wrong places, same as most other people that offer me assistance.


We're still moving forward, slow and steady. There's no rush. That's all.

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Post #63383 Re: Irony.

Well what do you expect? this community drove FE out, and now its driving out the other servers nothing will ever change, but it seems FE would rather move on without the EOSERV crap anymore.
so i do not see why you are complaining about FE not being on SLN anymore? Aren't you glad hes fucking gone? wtf is wrong with you.

 Aren't you all glad you have won your fucking victory FE is gone?
 from the SLN from eoserv
 no but thats not enough now you have to slander him more because he decided to leave the SLN?If i was in server owners shoes right now i'd be dropping out of EOSERV too because after seeing what happened to FE
 its gonna be happening to every other server.
 and the cycle will not end.

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Post #63395 Re: Irony.
clive posted: (26th Feb 2011 08:40 pm)

Well what do you expect? this community drove FE out, and now its driving out the other servers nothing will ever change, but it seems FE would rather move on without the EOSERV crap anymore.
so i do not see why you are complaining about FE not being on SLN anymore? Aren't you glad hes fucking gone? wtf is wrong with you.

 Aren't you all glad you have won your fucking victory FE is gone?
 from the SLN from eoserv
 no but thats not enough now you have to slander him more because he decided to leave the SLN?If i was in server owners shoes right now i'd be dropping out of EOSERV too because after seeing what happened to FE
 its gonna be happening to every other server.
 and the cycle will not end.


Lol.. people are finally realizing that SLN is a damn shitty place to be. Sausage should never have posted that "it's a competition" to a bunch of kids, although not saying it probably would of ended in the same result.
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Post #63464 Re: Irony.
Klutz posted: (26th Feb 2011 08:38 pm)

BUT, for someone "offering help" to me, you couldn't even create a forum account and talk to us, or even open an opportunity to be introduced to our team. Maybe your priorities were in the wrong places, same as most other people that offer me assistance.


I did create a forum account. In the few moments the server was up, I had a look around. I didn't see much progress and it mostly slipped my mind after the first couple of weeks. 

Apart from that, don't take it too seriously. My complaint isn't with yourself or Edge. Only the points in the top half of the post.



clive posted: (26th Feb 2011 08:40 pm)

Well what do you expect? this community drove FE out, and now its driving out the other servers nothing will ever change, but it seems FE would rather move on without the EOSERV crap anymore.
so i do not see why you are complaining about FE not being on SLN anymore? Aren't you glad hes fucking gone? wtf is wrong with you.

 Aren't you all glad you have won your fucking victory FE is gone?
 from the SLN from eoserv
 no but thats not enough now you have to slander him more because he decided to leave the SLN?If i was in server owners shoes right now i'd be dropping out of EOSERV too because after seeing what happened to FE
 its gonna be happening to every other server.
 and the cycle will not end.


Do you not think there was a reason this community took such a dislike to Fallen Evolution? Throughout the entire lifespan of EOSERV they were hardly what could be considered the model server, and certainly not the perfect example to many of the up and coming smaller servers, which was unfortunatesince they were also one of the more recognised ones. If I were in control of the SLN, they wouldn't have ever had to leave, i'd have kicked their sorry arse out when the first allegations of unethical practices came to light. The same goes for many servers.

Like I said, he's more than welcome to leave the SLN and sever all ties with EOSERV. Would he be willing to cease the use of the software though? I don't see how he would be able to sever any and all ties to EOSERV unless he does just that. Just like he won't be able to sever his ties to Endless Online unless he stops basing his work off of it. Sticking your fingers in your ears and calling ignorance doesn't make you independent from those around you.

Overall, i'd be glad to see them gone. It's a shame they didn't fuck off sooner.


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Post #63505 Re: Irony.

I don't have all the time in the world to work on my server, or the patience.

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