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LustEyes posted: (12th Feb 2011 11:53 pm)

This is so priceless! in my opinion FE sucks balls and BU and EE are the best.

If I were you guys I would attack FE not BU or EE.

Idiot, read sblords post, or just go away.

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Well these hacks that are being found prove vunerability in EOSERV. Things like this can be used for the greater good of the community. There was a time when the competition between servers was healthy. Addison had EO maximum, Ananas EO, Syran had a server, and we were all friends. We would visit each other's server showing off the new thing we had finished and shared ideas with each other. This was before FE and before BU. We never cared who had #1, it was all fun. Now, there is this odd thought that only one server should survive. Back when this started, everyone contributed code to each other. Somewhere along the line, along came FE with nice gfx patches. FE honestly lagged well behind most of the other servers code-wise. Addison came along to help FE's server have functionality. Addison did come to me for assistance with spells back then, I knew the structure and executed the first successful EOSERV spells (you're welcome Ele). When Addison went to work for BU, I passed him my source code as a reference (you're welcome too Kyle).

Both Kyle and Ele have put a lot of work into their servers. I do not condone the actions of Ele as far as the way he runs his server, and I am aware that he has give the orders to crash servers, he steals passwords from players using his server, and has absolutely no respect for anyone that doesn't kiss his ass. Kyle had an attitude problem with eoserv.net's community, and I had a talk with him about that.

What it boils down to is this. I have seen servers on this SLN come and go since EOSERV's birth. When I began this, I only wanted to keep EO alive thru emulation. It was just something fun to do and a way to hang out with old friends from EO. If you think that it is funny to go around punking everyone with exploits, grow up and move on with your life. This SLN is proof that any supported server can be #1. FE has been #1 with nice graphical updates, BU with skeletons, pokemon and Seose, EE with simply a solid emulation of the original game. Any other creative server operator could come along and take the #1 spot on the SLN. One thing to everyone, EO isn't about being a server operator, it is about being a player of the game. If you start pushing players away from a server because it frequently crashes, they may become discusted and leave the private server community all together resulting in a player across all servers. Think of how many potential players this happens to. Do you really want to push away potential players? If anything, most players "server hop" throughout the day giving them a variety of different servers to play. This is beneficial in that they have more to do and are less likely to get bored of one server.

Maybe we should try to put this right now for the sake of keeping private servers alive for another year. If not, this project will not survive.

Apollo posted: (13th Feb 2011 02:06 am)

Well these hacks that are being found prove vunerability in EOSERV. Things like this can be used for the greater good of the community. There was a time when the competition between servers was healthy. Addison had EO maximum, Ananas EO, Syran had a server, and we were all friends. We wouldvisit each other's server showing off the new thing we had finished and shared ideas with each other. This was before FE and before BU. We never cared who had #1, it was all fun. Now, there is this odd thought that only one server should survive. Back when this started, everyone contributed code toeach other. Somewhere along the line, along came FE with nice gfx patches. FE honestly lagged well behind most of the other servers code-wise. Addison came along to help FE's server have functionality. Addison did come to me for assistance with spells back then, I knew the structure and executedthe first successful EOSERV spells (you're welcome Ele). When Addison went to work for BU, I passed him my source code as a reference (you're welcome too Kyle).

Both Kyle and Ele have put a lot of work into their servers. I do not condone the actions of Ele as far as the way he runs his server, and I am aware that he has give the orders to crash servers, he steals passwords from players using his server, and has absolutely no respect for anyone thatdoesn't kiss his ass. Kyle had an attitude problem with eoserv.net's community, and I had a talk with him about that.

What it boils down to is this. I have seen servers on this SLN come and go since EOSERV's birth. When I began this, I only wanted to keep EO alive thru emulation. It was just something fun to do and a way to hang out with old friends from EO. If you think that it is funny to go around punkingeveryone with exploits, grow up and move on with your life. This SLN is proof that any supported server can be #1. FE has been #1 with nice graphical updates, BU with skeletons, pokemon and Seose, EE with simply a solid emulation of the original game. Any other creative server operator could comealong and take the #1 spot on the SLN. One thing to everyone, EO isn't about being a server operator, it is about being a player of the game. If you start pushing players away from a server because it frequently crashes, they may become discusted and leave the private server community all togetherresulting in a player across all servers. Think of how many potential players this happens to. Do you really want to push away potential players? If anything, most players "server hop" throughout the day giving them a variety of different servers to play. This is beneficial in that they have moreto do and are less likely to get bored of one server.

Maybe we should try to put this right now for the sake of keeping private servers alive for another year. If not, this project will not survive.

I agree, Ur basicly saying before BU and FE fought for the top there was no war about who gets there.
No illegal activities, well atleast not much, it was all about fun.
Anyway, I know it's to late to become friends with eachother (talking about Elevations/Kyle and you Apollo).
Maybe you guys can actually have a mature conversation without pointing fingers and forgetting about crashing for a moment.
And talk about it, the reason this started is actually uh.. dumb.

This makes no sense still, why would clive the fag spend all hes day DDoSing top servers?

B4 all these threads came he seemed very nice to me and helpy on the forums, mayby hes been hacked? idk.

@ Apollo, If my server were at top and everyone rant how bad it is although ive done my best to keep it up, id also be pissed as kyle. Cuz in other posts hes done ive seen no rage in it :O

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iSnow posted: (13th Feb 2011 04:49 am)

This makes no sense still, why would clive the fag spend all hes day DDoSing top servers?

B4 all these threads came he seemed very nice to me and helpy on the forums, mayby hes been hacked? idk.

@ Apollo, If my server were at top and everyone rant how bad it is although ive done my best to keep it up, id also be pissed as kyle. Cuz in other posts hes done ive seen no rage in it :O

He doesn't go around DDoSing every server, he's only doing it to BU, since an admin got him mad somehow, I guess.

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isnow the last time that i crashed was like 2 days ago since i already have talked with anger so please don't call me fag?

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clive posted: (13th Feb 2011 05:17 am)

isnow the last time that i crashed was like 2 days ago since i already have talked with anger so please don't call me fag?

Sure, but lol, it havent even been 2 days yet o.o

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Apollo posted: (13th Feb 2011 02:06 am)

This SLN is proof that any supported server can be #1. FE has been #1 with nice graphical updates, BU with skeletons, pokemon and Seose, EE with simply a solid emulation of the original game. Any other creative server operator could comealong and take the #1 spot on the SLN.

Nobody remembers when we were at top :(

Yes I agree very much, it was FUN when there was no competition to get annoyed with, and each of us had maybe 10 regular players each (on average). To be perfectly honest, when we first hit popularity back then and jumped to 30+ on every day, it became far too much for our immature team to handle (not defending myself).

Plus it was also cool once, when we were able to speak to each other. 
Nobody does this anymore. Well ok, I'm just a loner lol.

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A good example of how competition from server to server should be treated is much like when playing an online game with friends. You don't hate the other contender, but you still want to win. You don't disrespect them, but you still celebrate when you succeed.

How hard is that to understand?

Some people here frankly need one decent slap across the face to wake them up, and if that's not enough, getting the shit kicked out of them should get the message across.

I want everyone to take this seriously. I don't care if you're having some kind of dispute with another server, or another player. I don't care if you think hacking or defacing someone else's work is fun. You're part of the EOSERV community, whether you like it or not as long as you choose to use our software, and you have a duty to act responsibly considering the community support you've received.

To summarise this, because i'm not sure anyone is willing to read through the mass of text i've written on the past few pages, I will today introduce a brand new rule to the EOSERV community, one that extends to everyone, including its users, its servers and its players.

That is all.

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bone posted: (12th Feb 2011 06:12 pm)

Basically this whole thread went right off-topic, clive admits he's the one crashing bu, wich is the title of the thread, duh. Furthermore some ppl say i deserve it, why? what did i ever do to deserve it? All i have done is try to make a fun server for ppl to enjoy, if that makes me a bad personthen i guess it does, maybe i am confused as to what this whole eoserv thing is here for, i thought a community is a group of ppl on the same page, evidently its ok to do the opposite of its intended purpose. I am not much for ele's personality or character but, read between the lines here and youwill actually start to understand his message, we are supposed to be working together like sblord said and making something great here, instead we have guys like clive and jimmyee who gain more attention and notoriety from their negative exploits, the so called communtiy rejoices and holds handswith the assholes. So in conclusion if you want to crash the shit outta BU then do it, if that makes you feel like a man or that you are even close to the level of creativity of the ppl who actually put these servers up, then so be it, Bu has crashed probably half a million times from these guys inthe past year, and ppl still come back to it, if its up for more than an hr its #1. The actual community of eo will decide what happens, not a few nutless hackers. Ty and ya all have a nice day. :)

   Bone.  You may act like a 2 year old.  Some times ;P but everyone acts like that sometimes.

  Although, i find Elefag is taking this whole private server thing way to srsly, with all the illegal DDoSes etc.

I prefer BU over FE.  Bone acts like hes close to his age, and hes pretty cool if you get to know him.(I was in his guild(KYL) back when the main was still alive.).  Hes also very fun to hang out with.  Intil he got into the eo private server business.

Klutz posted: (13th Feb 2011 07:23 am)

Apollo posted: (13th Feb 2011 02:06 am)

This SLN is proof that any supported server can be #1. FE has been #1 with nice graphical updates, BU with skeletons, pokemon and Seose, EE with simply a solid emulation of the original game. Any other creative server operator could comealong and take the #1 spot on the SLN.

Nobody remembers when we were at top :(

Yes I agree very much, it was FUN when there was no competition to get annoyed with, and each of us had maybe 10 regular players each (on average). To be perfectly honest, when we first hit popularity back then and jumped to 30+ on every day, it became far too much for our immature team tohandle (not defending myself).

Plus it was also cool once, when we were able to speak to each other. 
Nobody does this anymore. Well ok, I'm just a loner lol.

It's like the saying goes, "With great power comes great responsibility." Back then, our teams weren't prepared for it. With all the experience we've had, we might stand a chance now if it were to happen again.

I can see where the amount of players would count as "power." You're leading the way as the "top" server, you're highest on SLN, so naturally you want to try to be the best to live up to the reputation that is going to be expected of you. It's not easy by any means, but Elevations and Bone have taken it way too far.

Everyone needs to calm down and think about why they started their servers to begin with. Did you one day say, "Oh, I going to build a server and become the best through certain illegal measures and blackmail"? I know I didn't. I did it for fun, and because I wanted to learn. In the end, your amount of players doesn't matter, you will be forgotten in the end, just like EO Main was. Everything ends sooner or later, and in this case it's looking to be sooner. Think about what you're doing, and ask yourself if the cost outweighs the benefits.

TL;DR Is it worth being number one only because you didn't give anyone else a chance to develop?

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Natalia posted: (13th Feb 2011 03:14 pm)

Everyone should just calm the fuck down and learn how to solve their problems the right way ;*)

Exactly who the fuck are you?

Their war is affecting everyone below them

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