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Post #53507 Re: why is every one leaving

That's why we would need to put aside our differences and work together. If everyone truly wants to rebuild EO, we could all work together to rebuild it. But without support and help from everyone, it can't be done. That's why I'm calling for everyone on EOSERV.

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Post #53513 Re: why is every one leaving
Syran posted: (17th Nov 2010 01:10 am)

That's why we would need to put aside our differences and work together. If everyone truly wants to rebuild EO, we could all work together to rebuild it. But without support and help from everyone, it can't be done. That's why I'm calling for everyone on EOSERV.


You'd need a dedicated leader who can manage it all.
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Post #53514 Re: why is every one leaving

If someone happens to try this I'll help, if i have any spare time to give away.

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Post #53515 Re: why is every one leaving

Rakuhana will pitch in however we can too.

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Post #53519 Re: why is every one leaving

Well i think if we are looking for a leader, Syran seems like a right fit for the job. I may not know syran well but he does seem to know what needs to happen for us to continue this project. If no one steps up to the job i will but there may be some people more qualified to lead this Humongous job. Here are the Some things i think We Need to do to be able to at least start this project.

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1) Put together a group

2) Make forum or website For our team and community to discuss our work

3) Decide exactly what we want to accomplish

4) Make Goals

5) Do our best to complete those goals

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Post #53527 Re: why is every one leaving
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3464/eovanilla.png
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Post #53533 Re: why is every one leaving

Lol maybe we will make EoVanilla

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Post #53556 Re: why is every one leaving
Klutz posted: (16th Nov 2010 12:06 pm)

@Sblord: Yes I understood you fully. And I agree with many of the points you have made. But creating a new forum thread under the current ones isn't gonna make a difference at all. If you want to wait around for a pointless forum thread then by all means wait, but that's not helping the"apparent" situation. Although I think there's nothing to worry about, there's plenty of great ideas going about just not everyone has the time to pro-actively work on them.


I'm not sure what you're saying here. Does it not seem like a logical step to have a dedicated area for contributors to submit their work to the "pool", ask questions and find out what needs to be actively worked on next? Without a central location for contributors to come together, we will have alot of this work going out into the ether, or worse yet, potential contributors all working on the same thing since there's no unified index of "who's doing what".

I somehow doubt this project will get off the ground until we have everyone thinking on the same page, not just building but actively designing every little detail to the same specifications. It may eventually get to the stage where we do need to consolidate the game development into a team of 15-20 people, divided into composers, artists, world designers, programmers, marketers and economists. The best software is developed in small teams and this is no exception.

As much as I want to believe that I have faith in the efforts of you guys to kick off the development of this game, I don't see an organised team with the kind of skill set required to produce a game of this caliber. We're no Blizzard or Electronic Arts, as a matter of fact at this stage we'd be lucky to produce a working remake of Zork, so even if we did produce a game at this stage it would be nowhere near good enough to actually compete and survive in the marketplace. We need to plan this through a little better, make some drafts and sketches so everyone has an idea of what we're aiming for and perhaps pitch the idea to get some serious contenders on board.

So, how about starting with some draft sketches or some ideas for us to bounce around and we'll go from there. At least then we'll know what we're supposed to be making.
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Post #53559 Re: why is every one leaving

I'm in. And I agree with sblord about the "pool" to put everything in.

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Post #53563 Re: why is every one leaving

I know i'm an "egotistical arse" but what do you think bringing hundreds of different server administrators, programmers, artists, web developers and more from eoserv is going to do? Its like saying hey lets try to merge every server on the SLN, even the ones that are dead(Bad Idea).

Not only would you need Rena, Apollo, Sausage, Addison, Exile, Roefl, Stava, and many more talented people who have already worked on thousands of servers before. But you will need common sense that not everyone is going to "participate" in this stupidity because first of all.

SBlord comes here and starts acting like hes made a succesful "EO 2" and everything "i know all about making a great healthy game"(where is your fantastic game then? oh yeah there isn't. Only the best advice how to do it.), then we got everyone else thinking. Oh yeah definitly possible such a great idea(Hello? All you got is sblord telling you how to do it not that its done, handed to you on a plate).

If it was possible it would have already been done and not to mention everyone here wants there own creation, there own game, there own project, not this "MERGED" EO cause lets face it. A simple EO replica isn't gonna cut it.

This is just retarded all thats going to happen is a bunch of people who try to put in ideas and the guy who is "OWNING" or managing this server is the one who will decide on everything.

Otherwise if everyone has to agree on everything then your gonna end up with a pile of crap. No real decisions will be made, just voted ones meaning the only people making this server are going to be the smart kids(No Offense Agenttubs the one who made this topic).

No offense once again.. but you guys are idiots if you ever think this is going to "SAVE EO"(Not pointing that at everyone but CMON).

Not to mention everyone is so in the dust about who is doing the leading here(me).

Why not just let Rena save EO because thats what the storys have "proclaimed" -LMFAO (yeah thats the reason why this topic is even here).


Last of all who the hell is paying for this shit?

LAYERDTECH.COM $300-500 a month enjoy your "EO 2" hope its worth it.

Like seriously not trying to be an ahole but Rena is already working on eosep, apollo is working on EO edge, Addison is working on his projects, and Sausage well he doesn't have the time and i doubt anyone is just gonna give up everything for
this "EO 2".

Personally i don't think your going to do any better then anyone else has done. Because you think its hard handling a server full of idiots? try working with them(not implying Rena, or anyone listed above is an idiot just trying to make a point).

Hope it goes well -Elevations

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Post #53564 Re: why is every one leaving

I beg to differ. But one of the most obvious problems has always been the fact that there have always been a large amount of players divided into separate smaller servers. 

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Post #53567 Re: why is every one leaving
Klutz posted: (17th Nov 2010 03:37 pm)

I beg to differ. But one of the most obvious problems has always been the fact that there have always been a large amount of players divided into separate smaller servers. 


As long as private servers exist and are distributing players into smaller servers NEWS FLASH you failed.

Not everyone is gonna want to join this "EO 2" when FE and BU and other servers have already long been in development they don't want to wait for everyones slow asses to participate in this crap.

They will stick to there servers.

Good luck starting this "SAVE EO / EO 2" when you are missing main key elements that SBLORD relies on.

Do i need to refer to his thread?

"Long Term Viability of Endless Online Private Servers"

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Maybe when FE is gone BU is gone and every other server is gone your plan might work to bad no one will want to participate because eoserv will be completly dead. Just like our servers considering thats the only reason people come to freaking eoserv morons to make private servers and there"projects". Not to merge EO into a pile of crap.
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Post #53568 Re: why is every one leaving

Well, we don't necessarily need everyone to leave their own servers, we would just need everyone to help us in building a replica of EOMain. Everyone wants a new EOMain, so together we could build it. The private servers are totally different. This way the players can continue going on with a normal EO replica, and the people who prefer different private servers can continue playing them, and we can all gain experience from this. Just think of it as a learning experience that will benefit everyone. I know we have all had issues with each other on here before, but if we really want to save EO, then we can put our differences aside for at least as long as it takes to build this.

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Post #53572 Re: why is every one leaving
Syran posted: (17th Nov 2010 04:10 pm)

Well, we don't necessarily need everyone to leave their own servers, we would just need everyone to help us in building a replica of EOMain. Everyone wants a new EOMain, so together we could build it. The private servers are totally different. This way the players can continue goingonwithanormalEO replica, and the people who prefer different private servers can continue playing them, and we can all gain experience from this. Just think of it as a learning experience that will benefit everyone. I know we have all had issues with each other on here before, but if wereallywanttosave EO, thenwe can put our differences aside for at least as long as it takes to build this.


Lmao as long as private servers exist all you will be hosting is another private server not an "EO 2" plus who the hell will be hosting it?

Sorry i just don't think you GET it people want EO back. They want vult-r to finish EO not us. They want there accounts that they spent ages leveling up on back. They want the real EO back online not some fake crap you are all trying to remake because thats labelled as a private server understand"PRIVATE SERVER".. cough cough EOSERV? SEOSE? EOSEP? MEOW? KALANDRA? PRIVATE SERVER? dur dur.

Its not guranteed that this is going to attract everyone who can't get on EO. Its not gonna have all there old accounts back items, levels, and the same friends they talk to on EO is it?

So stop acting like "OMG THIS IS GONNA BE GURANTEED SUCCESS EVERYONE ON EO WILL JOIN" its not. Its another private server where they either join or they don't and it will be a small server just like everyone elses on the SLN according to sblord so face the facts.
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Post #53574 Re: why is every one leaving
elevations posted: (17th Nov 2010 03:27 pm)

SBlord comes here and starts acting like hes made a succesful "EO 2" and everything "i know all about making a great healthy game"(where is your fantastic game then? oh yeah there isn't. Only the best advice how to do it.), then we got everyone else thinking. Oh yeah definitly possible such a greatidea(Hello? All you got is sblord telling you how to do it not that its done, handed to you on a plate).


I haven't dabbled in game servers before. It doesn't mean that I don't want these guys to succeed though. I wish them the best in their endeavours to actually make something and giving them a little advice from a perspective of someone that has never actively played EO, who bases advice and opinion off of skills learned in the business world doesn't really seem that ridiculous.

After all, these games aren't spiritual, they're not designed by people who want to recreate the old days, they're products. Products made by any other company or organisation that wants their product to be successful in the marketplace. How else did anyone think Runescape made it so big? I'm sure they're not just guys like us, and i'm positive they're raking in profits one way or another... it's just a different approach. Whether or not i'm a die hard MMORPG gamer like yourself or not is a moot point.

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