Klutz

Joined: 14th Jul 2009
Posts: 1737
Re: eo main private server
I understand Sblord & Desmond on this.
It is true yes, the developers here made those tools for a reason. And they shall be used for that exact reason, to modify or create new files from scratch.
But I also understand sblords subtle approach on classic players, as well as the need to pick up where vult-r left off. It's a sentimental thing.
But everyone to their own, everybody wants a different or unique server and that's just creativity for you.
Picking up where vult-r left of is a good idea for an eoserv project, and a successful clone would indeed be an accomplishment. I don't believe it would be easy to pick up where he left off though, there's so many flaws that need countering in the files, graphics and features. It's not just a
case of creating a successful clone client / server, each and every file/map needs to be remade.
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deathZ0
Joined: 3rd Nov 2010
Posts: 114
Re: eo main private server
still shittty exp and ya ur rite u dont kill 1 thing & ur L100 dumb ass u kill like around what? "This is probobally way of due to the lac of exp" 600k monsters? before ur Level 50-80
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iMic
Joined: 26th Jul 2008
Posts: 659
Re: eo main private server
Desmond Taylor posted: (9th Nov 2010 11:05 am)
Why make an EO Main Clone? Just work together in making a new set of maps and pubs and have some really nice staff.
For 2 reasons.
One, as a starting point. It's only too often that we see flashes of inspiration for a new game that gets only a few days or weeks into its development before it's considered too hard. Whoever takes on this project needs somewhere to start from before they can start making incremental
tweaks and improvements.
Two, for the same reason Windows 7 can still run Windows 9x software. Backward compatibility and familiarity. As great as it would be to start from scratch and have everyone on board, this isn't likely to happen. To coax existing players into our server we need to give them some
incentive to play it, which comes in the form of a handful of new feature or items (and the promise of a moderated, maintained server), but they will for the most part expect to see everything where it should be to start with.
In regards to who could achieve this... well, it'll take teamwork. It will need people with skills in community and business management. It will need dependable moderators with logic and rational decision making skills. Endless Online was created and operated by a team of at least six people.
I wouldn't rule out an equal team being required for this.
As for who leads that team, well, I don't think Sausage comes into the equation. Apollo and Rena are two that I would immediately see as having the potential to successfully lead a project such as this, and I trust their authority. I'm sure there's many others that could do it as well, as long
as they realise all the fine details that go into not just setting up a server, but also maintaining it and actively promoting it.
Oh, and don't call it Endless Online. That's just asking for a lawsuit. Coax the existing players (hell, a couple of posts on EO forums would grab 10 or 20), but don't reuse their names or trademarks.
I don't claim to be a professional at this, but i've had enough experience in the world of business and community management, plus enough time watching the rise and fall of many an Endless Online Private Server to know where most people go wrong. I just want to see someone get it right
eventually. Done right, it could be a real success.
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V!r-0s

Joined: 12th Feb 2010
Posts: 52
Re: eo main private server
This is just me but i belive that it would be impossible to bring back some of the members also everyone would winge about there lvl used to be Higher.
And they would always won't to become an admin no matter what and one of you guys said that there would be moderators for hackers but i thought that's why eo was dead because of the lack of admins that was the fun in the game.
Starting events and such.
Just my opinion.
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yeah but other shit as well
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iMic
Joined: 26th Jul 2008
Posts: 659
Re: eo main private server
V!r-0s posted: (11th Nov 2010 08:48 pm)
This is just me but i belive that it would be impossible to bring back some of the members also everyone would winge about there lvl used to be Higher.
And they would always won't to become an admin no matter what and one of you guys said that there would be moderators for hackers but i thought that's why eo was dead because of the lack of admins that was the fun in the game.
Starting events and such.
Just my opinion.
Valid points. Players migrating from the Main/Test server to our new server wouldn't retain a lot of what they already have, but it doesn't mean we can't make it easier for players to start over and rebuild. Perhaps we can give them some benefits or incentives. All challenges we have to overcome,
but not impossible.
As with any administration and moderation team, you have to have some level of control over the game and the users, but at the same time having a very light-handed approach in doing so. All we would have to do is ensure the game is less prone to exploits, maintain it, update it but at the same
time let the game run for itself. Think of how a government manages a country, they call the shots but for the most part remain hands-off about the entire thing.
On a sidenote, the first EOI has gone out to Endless Online Forums.
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ive already made a copy of main with a few beneficial changes but mostly the same its called NeverEnding Online me and my friends were working on it i was gonna have a beta test before main went down but i got really busy. Ill finish it up and post on here when its online the ip address will be
ne-online.no-ip.org plz tell your friends. if i can im gonna let people start off with a few items they had on main plz post wat you think my website will be up soon also Ne-Online.co.cc
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Atajoe
Joined: 19th Nov 2009
Posts: 36
Re: eo main private server
To be honest, i dont really give a shit about our levels and our items and moderators. I'd be really happy if Sblord, Apollo, and Rena, also the other EO Developers would make an EO Main 2.
I miss the old days in 2006 when i used to craft items with my buddies and my friends. I wish i can play with those people again if this EO Main 2 project was a success.
Why not make an EO main 2 server? We could also like 20 advertisers go on EO Main, and tell everyone about the new EO Main. Which has moderators, no speed, or hackers.
The server could be a big hit like over 200+ if were lucky. Then, we'd have a proffesional website like EO, and forums, and developers who can actually make a v29 with new spells, pets, features. But too be honest id keep the same eo maps because i actually miss playing on those mapswithplayers.
Also dont make them start with weapons or items. They can start at goats and get 2x goat horns and get a dagger themselves like old days.
Id fucking love the person who'd make an EO main 2 with 200+ players online. My great EO memories would come back again.
This is my opinion,
Thanks guys. :)
Edit: Shit bro id craft myself a tb, fires, and lotus, and pilotte. Even if it would take awhile, it be really awesome if i can get that feeling again one day if you guys made an EO Main 2.
Edit 2: It be really a good feeling too if you guys put a top 100 list. Also keep the exp same like EO so then it actually feel like we're doing work and not like killing 100k exp monsters and saying ''LOL I R LVL 50.'' Id actually get to lvl 50 even if it took like 6 months. I wouldn't give a
shit about it.
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Havoc

Joined: 14th Apr 2010
Posts: 98
Re: eo main private server
I Have one running right now i will have all original maps and quests and everything but custom client and weapons its EOVanilla
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I wish i can help, i cant even get my NPC sell in the shop -.-
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Apollo
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Joined: 14th Apr 2009
Posts: 2759
Re: eo main private server
@Havoc: I think you have missed the point completely.
Sblord is alluding to a post I had made earlier. The official EO client has outlived its usefulness to the private server community. Your "custom" client is essentially the EO client with some changes to the gfx and/or sfx files. What we are speaking of is an entirely new client which will offer
more functionality to the same core gameplay. For instance, a "lancer/dragoon" class could be added in which a character might have a supplemental attack to "jump" as we have seen many times in the Final Fantasy series. Real fishing could occur where a player would actually cast a line and wait for
a fish to bite and a well timed press of the control key would reel in the fish. These are things that are not possible without making the gameplay extremely hacky visually. If anyone thinks swatting their "pole arm" at water with "miss" popping up over the character's head is a nice fishing system
then those people are idiots. That system should have never been implemented in this game, ever. Pets aren't as bad, but seriously those should be summons. If you want a drone following you around all day buy the latest copy of Pokemon and walk around all day with your Pikachu expressing its love
for you thru the press of the button "A" when facing it. Aside from hacks, EO main's class system was never finished. To quote the "Wise Man", classes are handled through the quest system, will be better later. Right now, classes are basically one super-class. There is no real point. These things
are quite the reasons for looking beyond everything that EO is and imagine a new game that still remains familiar in terms of what EO was.
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Apollo I agree but the only thing that sux about that is it would change the entirety of EO making it alot more complicated. I do agree it sounds cool but if we get that far away and advanced its not really EO anymore is it? I would still enjoy playing the original Eo with a few changes amembers
section perhaps, some new maps that branch off of the old ones, new weapons aside from the old ones and a team of admins that arent complete ass holes sry for the language. We do need admins i believe unless we have admins monitoring our players we will have original EO all over again. Buti find
swinging a polearm at the water saying miss enjoyable because thats eo for me. As i said before though im making just that. Original eo with easier game play. Instead or having to fight apo or getting it from admins you go train and fight to get money go to the store and buy the armor orweapon you
deserve and have earned. Also you can spend your day getting items to craft the devil or turtle you wanted. This is what my server will be and almost is but if anyone thinks this sounds dumb by all means tell me.
I even made my own patch to go with it. Not like a death patch its the same eo screen with some more colorful buttons and the players now have colored underwear and colored eyes I believe it makes a big difference i call it v29
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i think the eoserv team should try to tackle this one cause seems like vult just quit dew to the lack of assistance and the fact that eo was just becoming a hacker paradise im sure all of the bright minds on these fourms could join together to make a exact duplicate of eomain thats unhackable.
now that would be great nobody has an advantage or an edge over anyone else
but the whole fall of eo started with not having a completely dedicated development team that would mish through all the bs and come out ontop eo was being ruled by the players not the admins
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